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The Imperial Family / Re: Costume Ball 1903
« on: November 17, 2017, 03:12:09 AM »
It was also quite usual at Russian balls for card tables to be set up in an adjoining room so that the less enthusiastic dancers could enjoy themselves with bridge and chat.

Ann

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Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna / Re: NEW LETTERS about Ella and Wilhelm
« on: November 17, 2017, 03:10:08 AM »
If the letter dated 2 December refers to a birth, then it presumably took place in the previous week or so. We need to take account of where Queen Victoria was at the time (Windsor or Osborne?) and how long the news had taken to reach her.  If we assume that the birth took place in the second half of November 1878, then that puts the conception some time in February.

I've had a look at John Rohl's Young Wilhelm, in which he says that Wilhelm visited Darmstadt in the autumn of 1877 while en route to Bonn University, and again in April 1878. Nothing in the critical period, and nothing in Ella's letter of 15 March to suggest that Wilhelm had been there recently.

As I said in my previous post, had Wilhelm made Ella pregnant when he was 19 and she 13, he would have been in the deepest of disgrace with his parents and grandparents.  He would at the very least have been removed from his comfortable student life and posted to some distant garrison. I would expect some discussion between his father, grandfather and Bismarck about his suitability to remain in the line of succession.

Ann

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Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna / Re: NEW LETTERS about Ella and Wilhelm
« on: November 16, 2017, 10:02:48 AM »
I agree with Ortino here.

Quite apart from the points already made, there would surely have been a whole lot of angry correspondence about Wilhelm's disgraceful behaviour, and what should be done about him.

Ann

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Thanks - my Christmas reading then.

Ann

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When is it coming out in the UK?

Ann

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Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga Photographs IV
« on: October 25, 2017, 11:20:40 AM »
Who are the other people in the picture?

Ann

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Putin is only 65. I think he will be around for a few years yet.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: October 20, 2017, 02:15:09 AM »
Some big families here - Louis and Marie with 9 children!

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: October 19, 2017, 10:44:01 AM »
Hm, Elizabeth of Greece and Denmark would be Elizaveta Nikolaievna rather than Ekaterina Nikolaievna.

will she and the fictitious Dimitri Nikolaievich have a happy marriage?

Ann


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That is pretty much what I thought.

Kronstadt would be better than Murmansk in terms of getting the family to the ship, but the Baltic Fleet was very militant, and their Soviet would doubtless put two and two together if a Norwegian warship appeared.

Geographically, was it possible to get from Tsarskoye Selo to Kronstadt without going through St Petersburg?

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Just to add, though the Royal Oak sank in harbour and relatively close to the shore, she went down very fast and nearly all those on board were asleep when the torpedoes hit, hence the very heavy losses. A memorial service is still held at Scapa Flow every year, attended until fairly recently by the last survivor of U-47's crew, who was subsequently a POW in Scotland and married a Scots girl!

Ann

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HMS Royal Oak is well-known to naval history buffs. As James will know already:
a) The then Captain and second-in-command (Captain KGB Dewar and Commander HM Daniell) were notoriously, court-martialled in 1929 after a clash developed with Rear Admiral B StG Collard, who flew his flag on board.
b) The ship was sunk inside the Home Fleet anchorage at Scapa Flow in November 1939, with the loss of 833 officers and men, after  U-47 penetrated the defences, a tremendous propaganda coup for the Germans.

If it is true that Maud's family disapproved of her marriage to Haakon, I wonder why. They were first cousins, but that was not normally considered a problem by royalty, and he was younger than she was. However, as the second son of a future King of Denmark he was a good dynastic match (far better than the Duke of Fife, who married her sister!) and a thoroughly decent man. Clearly Haakon's years of greatness lay ahead, but I've yet to see a bad word about him.

Ann

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Interesting about Haakon. I wonder why he proposed to send a warship rather than offer to receive the family at the Norwegian border (Norway has a land frontier with Russia - did it then?). Perhaps the reason was that the  transport arrangements would be simpler - as a neutral a Norwegian ship could go to Kronstadt, from which it was a short road journey to Tsarskoye-Selo. The border area between Russia and Norway is pretty remote, and would have been more remote then - when Murmansk was connected to St Petersburg by only a single-track railway.

These are just musings - I've probably answered my own question.

Obviously, it would have been far easier to get the family to Norway than to Spain, in purely practical terms. Going to Spain would have meant either a long and circuitous voyage through U-boat waters, plus minefields,  or a land journey crossing enemy territory (which Nicholas is unlikely to have agreed to).

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: October 05, 2017, 11:19:19 AM »
I note that Wolfgang survived until 1989, which is perhaps a mite too recent for you to use him - there will be people alive who knew him.

If you want a Hesse Cassel, there were two elder brothers killed in the First World War, Friedrich Wilhelm and Maximilian, born in 1893 and 1894 respectively.

They were all nephews of the Kaiser as well as great-grandsons of Queen Victoria, so very well connected.

Ann

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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« on: October 02, 2017, 02:59:54 AM »
I went into adult shoe sizes when I was eight. I also remember reading the unexpurgated version of Cinderella at about the same time and realising that I was classed with the Ugly Sisters, who cut bits off their feet to try to get into the glass slipper!

Ann 

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