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Forum Announcements / Grand Duchess Maria in Hawaii!
« on: May 09, 2010, 05:00:43 AM »
I knew that would get your attention!!!!

  :) :)


beeing the shy retiring type,
I don't often make general announcements, but I thought this was worth the effort.
The Grand Duchess, and I won't argue with anyone..,  you can call her Princess if you want,  attended numerous functions with the Hawaian  Royal Family, in Hawaii,(Honolulu) during her trip to America in late April 2010.

There was one function in the Royal Palace, and another in a private club, and others in private facilities.
Never having been a student of Hawaian culture and history, I was deeply impressed to hear that Hawaian and Russian contacts were quite lengthy, and I was even more shocked/amazed and bedazzled to hear that the Hawaians regard themselves to have been invaded by America, and that their system of Goverment was overturned for the American system of republicanism!!
I dont want to stir the pot of course......(much),
 but I was wondering what the community's thoughts where, and, I will post photo's of the event in the next day or so! 

Forum Announcements / Saint John of Kronstadt
« on: October 21, 2009, 09:01:25 PM »
Next week is the 90th anniversary of the birth of St. John of Kronstadt.
A close friend of mine will be in St.Petersburg and having some meetings with some people, including Patriarch Kirill.

If any one wants any questions asked please p.m me asap!


I of J

This is not an imperial medal or order issue, but does anyone know it?
I have looked for it on the wiki page of current Russian Awards but I am led to believe that it is one bestowed by the Patriarch.

News Links / A Georgian Royal Wedding 08/02/09
« on: February 07, 2009, 03:32:24 AM »
Fairytale royal wedding gives hope to Georgians

It's a fairytale wedding in a country in need of a boost: two strands of a dynasty that once ruled Georgia are joining together to end centuries of division in one of Europe's oldest royal houses.

The wedding of Prince David Bagrationi-Mukhrane li and Princess Anna Bagrationi-Gruzinsk y on Sunday is expected to bring an end to feuding over who is the rightful heir and to boost a campaign to transform this republic buffeted by wars and unrest in recent years into a constitutional monarchy.

More than 3,000 guests, including President Mikheil Saakashvili and representatives of Europe's aristocratic families, are expected at the ceremony in Tbilisi's Trinity Cathedral.

Prince David, 32, and Anna, 31, have kept a low-profile ahead of the ceremony, refusing to grant interviews. But many Georgians are nonetheless captivated. "This is an historic event," young actress Maya said as she sat in a cafe in downtown Tbilisi. "It will help Georgia to redefine itself in the modern world and deal with its troubled history."

Claiming descent from the biblical King David, the Bagrationi dynasty ruled a large chunk of present-day Georgia from at least the 9th century until the country was absorbed into the Russian Empire in the early 19th century.

A noble family in Tsarist Russia, many of the Bagrationis were scattered across Europe after the Bolshevik Revolution and the Soviet takeover of Georgia in 1921 following a brief period of independence. Many of those who stayed were killed or thrown into Soviet concentration camps.

Various branches of the family have laid claim to the ancient Georgian throne, with the Mukhraneli and Gruzinsky branches considered the most likely contenders. David Bagrationi-Mukhrane li is the son of Jorge de Bagration y de Mukhrani, a prominent racing driver whose branch of the family settled in Spain after World War II. A cousin of Spain's King Juan Carlos, the father died in 2008 after settling in Tbilisi.

Despite having spent his entire life in Spain and not speaking Georgian, David settled in Tbilisi in 2003 and obtained dual citizenship.His bride-to-be, Anna Bagrationi-Gruzinsk y, is the daughter of Nugzar Bagrationi-Gruzinsk y, a Tbilisi theatre director.The two houses have long feuded over their claims to the throne and historians say any children from the marriage would resolve the dispute.

"This marriage will eliminate any eventual doubts concerning the existence of a legitimate heir to the Georgian throne," said Marika Lortkipanidze, a historian with Georgia's National Academy of Sciences.

The marriage comes as support is growing for Georgia, which fought a brief war with Russia last summer, to become a constitutional monarchy. The influential patriarch of the Georgian Orthodox Church, Ilia II, has promoted the restoration of the monarchy and a recent phone-in survey on Georgian Public Television showed more than 40 percent of callers supporting the idea.

Georgian political analyst Tornike Sharashenidze said that many Georgians are frustrated with the presidential system adopted after the country gained independence with the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union.

Critics say too much power is concentrated in the hands of the presidency and that the system needs more checks and balances. "Georgians are largely disappointed with the presidential republic. This is why the idea of a constitutional monarchy emerged and has gained significant support within society," Sharashenidze said.

Still, even Georgia's most ardent monarchists admit it's unlikely the country will have a king or queen soon after Sunday's ceremony. Akaki Asatiani, the leader of Georgia's small Monarchist Party, said many Georgians are resistant to the idea of a constitutional monarchy and do not understand how it would work. "The 200-year gap in the royal tradition is an issue and most Georgians lack understanding of the constitutional monarchy system," he said. "But sooner or later people will realise that this constitutional model is a guarantee for democracy and stability." com/hostednews/ afp/article/ ALeqM5hy2lMQfJAx zGZkM9kOvzKsktCy 2w

Forum Announcements / A NEW PATRIARCH
« on: January 31, 2009, 04:42:39 PM »

 The Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church has elected Metropolitan Kirill(its Regent,) as its new Patriarch!!!

Forum Announcements / Tsar Nicholas II and Royal Family Rehabliitated
« on: October 01, 2008, 05:52:03 AM »
Court rehabilitates Emperor Nicholas II, royal family members

Moscow, October 1, Interfax - The presidium of the Russian Supreme Court has ruled to rehabilitate the last Russian Emperor Nicholas II and the members of his family.

"The presidium of the Supreme Court has ruled to recognize Nikolay Alexandrovich Romanov [Nicholas II], Alexandra Fyodorovna Romanova, Olga Nikolayevna Romanova, Tatyana Nikolayevna Romanova, Maria Nikolayevna Romanova, Anastasia Nikolayevna Romanova, and Alexey Nikolayevich Romanov as groundlessly repressed and rehabilitate them," a Supreme Court judge said in pronouncing the ruling.

The court so granted an appeal by lawyers for the Romanov royal family against an earlier court decision denying their rehabilitation.

The presidium ruled to invalidate an earlier determination by a Supreme Court panel, which found that Nicholas II and members of his family were not eligible for rehabilitation.

German Lukyanov, a lawyer for the Romanov royal family, insisted in the appeal that Nicholas II and his family members were subjected to reprisals based on social, religious, and political motives and that the Russian law stipulates that all victims of political reprisals are eligible for rehabilitation.

"Reprisals are coercion measures applied by government bodies invested with administrative powers to limit someone's rights and freedoms based on class, social, and religious motives," he said.

"The body that made the decision to execute the members of the royal family was invested with such powers," he said.

The prosecution said at the court that the rehabilitation of the members of the royal family would be unlawful.

"The members of the royal family were not arrested on political grounds and no court ruled to execute them. In addition, there is no information indicating that any court rulings were handed down in relation to the members of the royal family," he said.

The Russian Supreme Court denied the rehabilitation of Nicholas II and members of his family last November, thus upholding a decision by the Prosecutor General's Office that the emperor, his wife, and five children, who were shot in 1918, were not eligible for rehabilitation.

Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra Fyodorovna Romanova, their children Alexey Nikolayevich, Olga Nikolayevna, Tatyana Nikolayevna, Maria Nikolayevna, and Anastasia Nikolayevna, and also the royal family's doctor, Yevgeny Botkin, maid Anna Demidova, cook Ivan Kharitonov, and butler Aloizy Trupp were shot in Yekaterinburg early on July 17, 1918.

The remains of the members of the royal family and their retinue were discovered buried near an old road not far from Yekaterinburg in July 1991. Expert analyses conducted as part of a criminal case pursued by the Russian Prosecutor General's Office confirmed that the remains were those of the above-mentioned people. The remains were buried at the St. Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg on July 17, 1998.

Q&A and Interviews / 90th Anniversary of the executions.
« on: June 16, 2008, 05:11:08 AM »
Aquaintances of mine are travelling to Russia next month for the commemoration services of the murders.
I would think it would be opportune to start a thread for the upcoming events.
It will undoubtably be something very special!
Please feel free to contribute any webpages and thoughts that relate to the commemoration services.

Forum Announcements / IMAGINE!!!!!
« on: October 23, 2007, 05:02:51 AM »
I have just had to do a quick wikipedia to ascertain a fact on a comment that i posted 2 months ago.

I had the information I needed within 90 seconds, and that was because it was at the bottom of the wikipedia page.
The reason for the post is to remind us all of what it was like without the net, and to ask "imagine what it was like without it for those of us under 35, and imagine what it will be like in the future if we lose it?"
No, I am not in to conspiracies, so we can leave that issue aside, but think of what it was like in Russia prior to the revolution, did anyone actually know anything? like the truth?
As a quick example, as a Greek Australian, I had heard many many things about the Greek Royal Family and our King Konstantine, yet the knoweledge that I have received over the last 6 months regarding H.M and the circumstances that led to his exile would have taken me a life time of interviews and public library visits.(if I was lucky!)
Let alone what I have learnt about the Romanov's!!!
So, even though I havent asked the chap at the end of austin cellars, I would like everyone to imagine, and you to respond!

God save The King!

The Greek Royal Family / Greek Royal Orders & Regalia
« on: October 22, 2007, 08:42:59 AM »
Anybody know what happened to it?

Hullo all.
Would anyone be able to tell me about the
"Sovereign Orthodox Order of St. John".
It is supposedly headed by the Moscow Patriarch, and it is a very charitable instituition. I have have found many St.John Orders on the net, some not as genuine or as original as others.'

The Byzantine Heritage / BYZANTINE 1200
« on: October 09, 2007, 11:36:48 PM »
I found this site on the net yesterday whilst researching the Byzantium empire.
Some computer engineer/modeller/architect has created some amazing graphics.

The Greek Royal Family / Events/Personages in modern Greece
« on: August 27, 2007, 04:04:36 AM »
My mother comes from the southern most part of the Greek mainland. It is a part of the Peloponese called Mani. Very mountainous, very poor and very proud. The capitol of the area is Aeropolis which means the city of the God of war.
Petro bey Mavromihalis named it after himself.
I was just on the phone with an uncle. He just retired from a senior goverment position. University educated etc etc etc.
The fires are swamping the area, the deaths are alot more than the media is reporting, the economy of the area is/has been destroyed.  Another relative is hoping the fires wont cross a creek line or else she will need rescuing. She is 80 something.
The emergency services are swamped, awaiting help from the National goverment. All they have received at the moment after 3 days of fire are either local ie within  100 kilometere resources or the army, but only conscripts, no true fire fighting equipement per se.
It seems that they have been let down.They are waiting for European help etc etc like choppers and trucks, they are on their way but still coming. One would think that prior planning would prevent piss poor performance. Not in this case.
I feel qualified to make these comments as living in Australia I know what a bushfire is and have some limited experience in fighting them.
The politicians are raving like mad dogs accusing each other of incompetence but  that isnt putting out the fires.
Sorry to deviate from the issue which we are all here but I thought you would like to know.

Interesting to see what he has to say about the Bolshevists!
Former KGB Colonel honoured 
Written by Professor David Flint AM     
Tuesday, 26 June 2007 
The award by in The Queen’s Birthday list of a CMG to Oleg Gordievsky recalled our reference to him in a column, “Australia's second republican movement-the inspiration,” published on  9 June 2006. We had pointed out there that Australia’s second republican movement was for long subsidized and under the instructions of the Soviet Union. Without the Soviet Union it would have been impoverished and directionless. It is unlikely that it would have been able to occupy the positions of significance it did in the trade union movement and in political life.
We said that it would be interesting to speculate what would have happened in Russia had not the German High Command smuggled Lenin in a sealed train into Russia with the intention of weakening and neutralizing the Russian Government. When the Bolsheviks eventually siezed power, it could not have been said that they had a popular mandate. But with power, they were able to change Russia. Had they not come into power, there would have been no significant Communist Party of Australia, and no second republican movement.
We asked how did the Tsarist system compare with the subsequent Soviet regime? Were the Soviet republics, as we were constantly told, a great improvement? It was at this point that we quoted Oleg Gordievsky, one of the highest-ranking and most valuable KGB defectors. He was a Colonel of the KGB, and the bureau’s rezidentura in London, but became disillusioned with the Soviet system. He defected to the United Kingdom in 1985.
In a letter to The Independent on July 21, 1998 he wrote:
“Russia under Nicholas II, with all the survivals of feudalism, had opposition political parties, independent trade unions and newspapers, a rather radical parliament and a modern legal system. Its agriculture was on the level of the USA, with industry rapidly approaching the Western European level. [In contrast] in the USSR there was total tyranny, no political liberties and practically no human rights. Its economy was not viable; agriculture was destroyed. The terror against the population reached a scope unprecedented in [human] history.No wonder many Russians look back at Tsarist Russia as a paradise lost.”

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