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The Wittlesbachs / Georg and Isabella
« on: November 07, 2008, 10:54:59 AM »
Perhaps the issue has been discussed in another threads, but I´m interesting in knowing more about the short marriage between prince Georg of Bavaria and archduchess Isabella of Austria. They were married at the beginning of 1912, but at the end of the same year they were involved in an annulment procedure. I find it rather strange...

Anyone knows what happened??
(Pictures of the two are welcome).

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The Wittlesbachs / Louise, prinzessin Alfons von Bayern
« on: September 30, 2008, 12:30:38 PM »
Surely, you have lots of pictures and info about her...
 ;)



I´ve read Alfons and Louise were deeply in love...

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The Wittlesbachs / Pilar of Bavaria
« on: September 18, 2008, 02:26:04 PM »


I need your help ;)
I´m trying to collect info and pictures of Pilar, princess of Bavaria. It´s a strange thing...her paternal grandmother was infanta Amalia del Pilar of Spain, her maternal grandmother was queen Isabel II of Spain, she was madly in love with her cousin king Alfonso XIII; she was a princess of Bavaria, but closely connected to the spanish royal dinasty; but I don´t know how she was, what kind of life she lived. And I have seen just two or three pictures of Pilar...


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The Wittlesbachs / Adelgunde princess of Bavaria
« on: September 05, 2008, 02:50:21 PM »
I believe there´s a thread about the daughters of king Ludwig III and queen Maria Theresa, but I wish to know better this princess Adelgunde...


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The Wittlesbachs / Princess Elvira of Bavaria
« on: July 07, 2008, 01:02:42 PM »
Hello.
I´m deeply interested in princess Elvira of Bavaria, since she was half-spanish ;) I know she was a pretty girl, according to the picture I found in the -simply wonderful...- Brigitte´s site. But I know nothing about Elvira. Pics and info would be welcome...


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Having Fun! / Royals and fancy dress
« on: April 10, 2008, 04:49:33 PM »
Hello!
I want to collect all the pictures of royals in fancy dress. Royals from all the countries and through all the times ;)

I start with a lovely picture of Alexandra princess of Kent:


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Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Nicholas I mistresses
« on: February 16, 2008, 12:36:43 PM »
Reading Wikipedia, I found that tsar Nicholas I had illegitimate issue:

With Anna-Maria Charlota de Rutenskiold (1791-1856)
•Youzia Koberwein (12 May 1825 - 23 February 1923)
With Barbara Yakovleva (1803-1831)
•Olga Carlovna Albrecht (10 July 1828 - 20 January 1898)
With Barbara Nelidova (d. 1897)
•Alexis Pashkine (17 April 1831 - 20 June 1863)

I always thought he was a tender and protective husband to her wife, Alexandra, née Charlotte of Prussia; and I know Alexandra was really in love with her Nicky. I wonder how she felt about the mistress and illegitimate children they borne to Nicholas...Anyone knows?
Portraits of the most famous of the mistress above listed -Barbara Nelidova- would be appreciated...

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Mediatized Noble Families / Hardenberg
« on: April 11, 2007, 04:55:02 AM »
I need your help to find information and pictures about Karl August von Hardenberg, the famous prussian chancellor, his three wives -specially the first of them, Juliane countess Reventlow- and his children -specially his daughter Lucie Anne, reichsgräffin von Papenheim through a first marriage, and fürstin von Pückler-Muskau through a second marriage.
Thanks a lot.

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Russian Noble Families / Princes Troubetskoy
« on: March 23, 2007, 02:04:18 PM »
Hello!
I´m interested in all the information anyone of you could provide about prince Vasily Trubetskoy, born in 1776, dead in 1841, general of cavalry and aide of champ for the tsar Alexander I. I´m also interested in his wife, Sophia Marianna von Weiss. They were paternal grand-fathers of princess Sophie Troubetskoi, married firstly to the duke of Morny and secondly to the spanish duke of Sesto.
Portraits would be welcome.

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I´m deeply interested in the "most beautiful prince of Europe", younger brother of two kings, Gustav III and Karl XIII.
I have read he was never married, althought he had a long-standing relationship with the charming Sophie Hagman.

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Hi!
I became curious about princess Marie Elisabeth Amalie Franziska, born in Landshut, on May 1784. She was a daughter of Duke Wilhelm and his wife Maria Anna von Birkenfeld, and also a  younger sister of Pius Augustus, duke in Bavaria, father of the famous duke Max.
Marie Elisabeth was married with Louis Alexander Berthier, one of the napoleonic marshals. He was created prince of Wagram and duke of Neufchâtel, I believe. Berthier was madly in love with his mistress, Madame Visconti, but Napoleon forced him to marry a bavarian princess. The marshal killed himself at Schloss Banz, Bamberg, seven years after the wedding with Elisabeth. She lived until 1849.
Portraits will be welcomed!! ;)

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The Hesse-Darmstadts (Hesse and by Rhine) / Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
« on: February 10, 2007, 05:01:44 PM »
I suppose this is the right place to start a thread on Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt. She was one of the two daughters born in the marriage between Louis VIII duke of Hesse and his wife Karoline of Zweibrücken.

The elder sister of Amalia, Frederika Louisa, became queen of Prussia by her marriage with the frankly unfaithful Frederick William II of Prussia. So, Amalia was a maternal aunt of Frederick William III of Prussia and also of Frederike Wilhelmina, the queen of king William I of the Netherlands.

Amalia married margrave Karl Ludwig of Baden, her first cousin as son of Karoline Louise of Hesse-Darmstadt (a sister of Amalia´s father). After the marriage, Amalia had a good number of children. Of course, she was the mother of Karl of Baden, and this made her mother-in-law to Stephanie of Beauharnais ;) But the was the mother, too, of Katharine Karoline, later queen Karoline of Bavaria by marriage; Louise, later tsarina Elizaveta Alexeyevna of Russia by marriage; Frederika, later queen Frederika of Sweeden by marriage and Wilhelmine, later duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt by marriage with an old oncle.

I think Amalia is a very interesting lady. She was an ancestor of Maria Alexandrovna, russian tsarina, but also of Elisabeth of Bavaria, austrian empress. And she was related to Alix of Hesse, later Alexandra Feodorovna.

Do you have any portraits and valuable info about this lady? I know she was really attached to her daughters, and the letters that Elizaveta Alexeyevna wrotte to her mother are a great source of information...

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When David II, the only legitimate son of king Robert Bruce by his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh, died in february 1371, he left no children. David II was married firstly with the english princess Joan of the Tower, but she had not babies. When he became a widow, he remarried his former mistress Margaret Drummond, but, after five years of conjugal life, they were divorced on grounds of her infertility. The king was planning to marry his new mistress, Agnes Dunbar, when he was dead.

Being David childless, he was succeeded by his nephew, Robert II. Robert was a son of Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert Bruce by his first wife Isabella de Mar, so a half-sister of David. Marjorie had been married to Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland. When Marjorie was pregnant, she fell from a horse and she delivered his son Robert by cesarean section. The poor woman died so quickly. The child grew up and, later, as I said, he succeeded his maternal uncle David II.

Robert II was the first Stuart king.

But I´m specially interested in his maternal grand-mother, Robert Bruce. These man, the royal ancestor of the Stuart´s dinasty, had an heritage scoto-norman through his father, Robert de Brus, Lord of Annandale, but gaelic heritage through his mother, Marjorie countess of Carrick. Marjorie of Carrick seems to have been a wondreous woman: Robert of Annandale caught her eye and she was so taken with him that she had him held captive for a time, until he agreed to marry her! By the way, the couple Robert&Marjorie had several children: five sons who were named Robert, Edward, Niall, Thomas and Alexander; five daughters who were named Christian, Isobel, Mary, Margaret and Matilda.

When the heiress of Scotland, Margaret, surnamed the Maid of Norway, was died on the Orkney Islands before time, in 1290, the main line of the House of Dunkeld came to an end. Margaret had been a norwegian princess through her father, Erick Magnusson, but a scottish princess through her mother, Margaret, daughter of Alexander III of Scotland and Margaret of England. After Margaret of Norway´s death, thirteen competitors claimed their rights to the scottish throne. The two most noteworthy were Robert de Brus lord of Annandale and John Balliol lord of Galloway.

Robert de Brus was an unsuccesful claimant, but he transferred his rights to his elder son Robert Bruce. It was an epoch fulfilled with battles, until the battle of Bannockburn, in 1314, when Robert gained his kingdom ;) I think he paid the price for his crown, during all these years of anguish. He suffered a lot when the english killed his brother Niall, or when the english took as prisoners his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh, his daughter from the first wife named Marjorie Bruce and his sister Christian. It seems that he always suffered a lot when the english took as state prisoner Isobel MacDuff, countess of Buchan, the woman who had crowned Robert at Scone. The english alleged Isobel was the mistress of Robert. She was captured after the battle of Methven and had a very cruel captivery for almost four years.

What do you think about Robert Bruce and his time?

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The Danish Royal Family / Queen Carolina Matilda, tragic destiny
« on: November 08, 2006, 04:25:46 AM »
I know that we can find info about Carolina Matilda in several threads focused on danish queens, but her tragic life deserves a thread ;)

I wish to start posting a portrait of Carolina Matilda as a young british princess with her sister Louise Anne. I always liked so much this portrait...



Carolina Matilda never knew her father: she was born at Leicester House three months after the death of Frederick, prince of Wales. It seems that a burst abscess in the lung was the cause of death to this man, aged forty-four. He had been a womaniser and a spendthrift in his youth, but he settled down when he married the sixteen years old princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha. They had a very succesful marriage, living with their children in the countryside at Clieven, since the relationship between Frederick and his parents (king George II and queen Caroline, born princess of Ansbach) was really a bitter one and the prince was banished from court.

Carolina Matilda had eight brothers & sisters: George, who beared the tittle of prince of Wales when the girl was born; Edward, duke of York; William, duke of Gloucester; Henry, duke of Cumberland; Frederick William; Augusta Charlotte; Elizabeth Caroline and Louise Anne.

During her marriage with Frederick, Augusta of Saxe went along with her husband´s wishes in the feud with her father-in-law and her mother-in-law. But, when she became a widow, her role as the mother of the heir of the throne (young George, later George III) was noteworthy. She felt under the influence of the third Earl of Bute, John Stuart, her son´s tutor. It was rumoured that Augusta and John Stuart were having an affair. It was almost certainly untrue: John was happily married to Mary Wortley-Montagu, who had borne him eight children, and he held religious beliefs against adultery. But scandalous pamphlets about the relationship between John and Augusta were published through the years, the two were savagely satirised on the press and the widow of Frederick suffered widespread hostility from the public.

These is a portrait of Augusta, the vilified mother of Carolina Matilde:



I suppose Carolina grew up knowing very well that her paternal grandparents hated her dead father and her vilified mother. It must have been like she were always walking under dark clouds. But Carolina felt secure in her native country and loved her family, so she broke in tears when at the age of fifteen, was forced to fled to Denmark because her older brother, George III, was anxious to marry her with their cousin Christian VII. Poor Carolina was not allowed to take english ladies-in-waiting with her, so she found herself alone in a new country and married to a mentally ill man. Christian made it publicly known that he could not love Carolina as it was unfasionable to love one´s wife. He continued his ardent pursuit of whores and also young men, as I have read. The fierous step-mother of Christian, dowager queen Julianne, disliked Carolina because the little thing might provide her husband with an heir. I think this was the first step in the ruin of Carolina...

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Iberian Royal Families / Jaime and Elena,Duke and Duchess of Lugo
« on: October 26, 2006, 01:10:00 PM »
Well, I think that the most borbonic spanish infanta of our days deserves a thread.

When she was a young girl, she was seen as the ugly duck of the family. Of course, the duck never became a swan, but...she´s now a very fashionable lady!

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