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Maples went out of business several years ago. Someone may own the name. Maples also owned Gillows who made furniture for the Royal Family. I think my grandparents had a lot of Gillow pieces.

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The Windsors / Re: Royal Interiors, Part II
« on: May 07, 2010, 11:23:05 AM »
I have just bought a little book called, "Royal Lodge, Windsor" by Helen Cathcart, published in London in 1966. I shall post more when I have had a good read.

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I have to say this too someone in years to come will know of me and how I loved history and the last years of Imperial Russia. I hope they will see I always tried to be objective and stand back and take time to read, listen and absorb others op ionins and feelings. I hope just one of my postings will mean something special to the man, women or child Reading it.

I am really moved by this!! Well done verybody.

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I feel all chilled, this is fantastic!!! I am quite proud to think something I have said or written will be in such a great library, my humble ordinary op ions .....I like that!!!

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Nicholas II / Re: Nic II's Plans to go abroad April 1917
« on: April 13, 2010, 05:09:24 AM »
George V was not a moral coward, he had his country and his people to think of. The tragedy of Ekaterinburg was the beginning in a long and bloody history called the 20th century. Its is almost like the loss of a sort of innocence, that in a way did not really exist. I think people believed in a civilised society in Europe. Its like the industrial advances had been matched by a huge change in human behaviour. I suppose a bit like the Titanic, so many first class saved not enough boats.

George V did not fire the weapons that killed the Imperial Family. I do know he would have seen and had advice from Stamfordham on the vitriol that was pouring out of the British Press. Not only was Nicholas perceived as a tyrant, he was letting us down on the Eastern Front badly. It was as if everything was working against him, poor man. Actually if anything George V was morally brave saying no to his cousins who he loved. It must have been a terrible, agonising thing to have to do. Queen Mary who was fond of AF, I know was deeply affected by the events in Russia.

As for the civil unrest in the UK in 1926, that's what I mean there was enough of an educated middle class and a educated working class for there to be pretty peaceful changes. The 1926 General Strike changed Britian for ever, but peacefully and with our traditions and structures pretty intact. Yet we also changed. The Monarchy and the regard people had for it and George V played a huge part in that. No dictators for us or fascist hordes. We British do not like violent change we went through it in 17th century and disliked it very much. We sent those dull Puritans to American, no dancing and cancelling Christmas....bah humbug.....LOL

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: alexandra and trains
« on: April 12, 2010, 06:14:43 PM »
By the time anything she did was wrong, it was I am afraid to late.

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Nicholas II / Re: Nic II's Plans to go abroad April 1917
« on: April 12, 2010, 06:12:44 PM »
Its fair to say that the conditions in factories in the UK in 1918 were not ideal, but they were not dickensian, the Liberal governments of the Edwardian era had brought in many reforms. Including old age pensions and reform of the House of Lords. The unions were begining to make a difference and times were changing in the UK. We had the one thing that Russia just did not have an educated and franchised middle class. We also had the great philanthropists, Lever-Hulme, The Cadbury family, and many other industrialists who built whole towns to house their workforces in pretty good conditions for the times. There was also universal education to the age of Evryone had a education to 14, the Fisher Act of 1918 made provision for this and the extension for tertiary to 18 on a full or part time basis. This was for all children, nothing like that existed in Russia, these plans for tertiary education were novel and ground breaking.




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Nicholas II / Re: Nic II's Plans to go abroad April 1917
« on: April 11, 2010, 07:47:13 PM »
I agree Robert, the family should have moved to the Lower Dacha in the Peterhof Park. As Rodzianko said in the event of a fire you evacuated the invalids first. AF made some very bad choices, but saying that its so easy to judge with hindsight.

As for the British civil population living in circumstances as bad as the Russian civil population, that's just ludicrous. Yes we had rationing and the losses at the front were very bad, but we had no enemy on our soil, we had a modern infrastructure, we were not an 18th century power in a 20th century world.

I have always felt so sorry for King George V, he did what he had to do, put his throne and nation first, above familiar feeling and against his own wishes. That is one reason the Monarchy is still still extant here in the United Kingdom. It was Marx who always believed it would be the UK that would go communist before the other nations, as we were the first great industrial nation.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Did Alexandra Have Other Lovers?
« on: April 10, 2010, 05:29:15 PM »
LOL it was still interesting and on subject sort of DX

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: alexandra and trains
« on: April 10, 2010, 05:27:52 PM »
Massie is not always accurate, though one of the best still and one of the first books I read. I think those flowers probably came for MF too and the Empresses before. Like many courts things just happened at Tsarkoe Selo and other imperial domains. The Tsar was always giving out awards he knew nothing about. The court had its own ways and just kept on doing what it always did. Also all those in the household and the court needed it to do just that to justify their existence.

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The Final Chapter / Re: Questions about Jewels in Clothes
« on: April 06, 2010, 04:46:03 PM »
Cannot find even a mention of fur coats being found in Sokolov. Not sure what happened there. It seems logical that they simply disappeared being "appropriated" by one person after another during those turbulent times.

I seem to remember reading (can't remember where) that the IF had packed badly and unrealistically. Alexei's baby clothes etc. That they had not packed enough and they had not packed for prolonged exile thinking they would return to the AP and then off to exile or something along those lines. It has always puzzled me why AF had to borrow Prof. Botkin's fur coat for the journey from Tobolsk??? I also have always had the impression that the family probably had vast amounts of official clothes but not that many everyday clothes. AF does mention the lack of underclothes etc. and mending Fathers trousers!!!!

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Did Alexandra Have Other Lovers?
« on: April 06, 2010, 04:24:23 PM »
My Grandfather was 50 when my mother was born in the 1930's. He was born in the Eastend of London, Bethnal Green in December 1882. He was about 6 when Jack the Ripper was about. He grew up to serve his country in the Boer War, The Great War and firwatched in the blitz. He also found time to run his own small haulage business and own his own house (big thing then in the Eastend). He dies in 1946 from cancer. I never knew him, yet I can tell you every detail of his life because he told his children what he had done and learnt. We all inherited the one great gift he passed to all of us, the love of books!!!! I hope I have not gone of subject to much.

But I always think of him when a date is mentioned like 1896 Coronation of NII and AF, Grandfather was 14, 1905 first Duma he was 23. Its a great way of connecting with the past. Try it, oh and ask living relatives to tell you what they were doing or where they were when certain things happened, their opinion and perspective is a great way to see your family, country and all our stories from a different perspective.

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Palaces in Moscow / Re: Russian Presidential Residences?
« on: April 03, 2010, 07:54:08 PM »
I like Putin, rather him that that drunk Yeltsin. I like a nice strong Russia it keeps Europe in balance.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Did Alexandra Have Other Lovers?
« on: April 03, 2010, 07:50:43 PM »
They were cousins and their mothers sisters. I think we forget sometimes the bonds of blood.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Did Alexandra Have Other Lovers?
« on: April 03, 2010, 08:41:00 AM »
I am told it was a photograph of Marie Nicoleavna.

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