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Both the Hesses and the Tecks were rather poor by royal standards.

The Tecks, as morganatic hanger-ons and minor appanagists were not on the same financial level as the Hesses, reigning royalty. It makes more sense to say that while neither were royal upper class like the Romanovs and the immediate British RF, the Hesses were royal middle class and the Tecks were poor / "on welfare".

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Having Fun! / Re: Swole corps des pages - literally
« on: August 12, 2017, 01:55:50 PM »
I corrected your mistake.

Thank you!

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I see there are a few references linking the Von Dreyer family to Керебежева Горка, whereever that may be, in the same area.

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There is a hamlet named Rovnitsy [Ровницы] in Plyussa district of Pskov Region, that was formerly alternatively named Slepoy Konets. Before 1917 it belonged to Luga uezd of Petersburg Governorate. It's almost certainly the estate you're looking for.

Thank you! I'm surprised it was such a remote, small place: On Google Maps it looks like just a row of houses by some meadows, between a river and huge forests. No sign of a manor house, but I found a picture of a ruined church. Truly a "blind end"!

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Having Fun! / Swole corps des pages - literally
« on: August 02, 2017, 07:18:42 AM »
Queen EII's grand-nephew and former page and train carrier Arthur Chatto has announced to the world via Instagram how he has beefed up and become buff. See http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/5133043.html
The best comment is:
Это ж сколько весит её шлейф, если паж в такой форме?!
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How much does her train weigh, if her page is in such shape?!
LOL!

(Note that the Russian word for "train" in this context is шлейф, directly from German Schleif.)

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The father of Grand Duke Nikolay Konstantinovich's morganatic spouse, Nadezhda Alexandrovna Dreyer was Chief of Police in Orenburg Alexander Gustavovich (von) Dreyer and her mother was Sophia Ivanovna Opanovskaya, according to the Russian Wikipedia. From this database of foreigners in pre-Revolutionary Russia we see that her father was a Baltic German. This is her grandfather Gustav von Dreyer, apparantly an auditor and estate owner in the Narva area.

The name of the estate, Slepow Koniec / Slepov Konez / Slepov Konyets, seems elusive, though. It's probably not in Estonia, as it doesn't sound like (Germanized or Russified) Estonian at all. It's probably in the St. Petersburg Governate. In Russian Слепов конец means something like End of the Blind. One the Russian Wikipedia definitions of конец is:
устаревшая единица территориального деления населённого пункта, охватывающая одну или несколько улиц (ремесленный конец, рыбацкий конец). Как правило, такое деление возникало в небольших посёлках и городках и позже становилось тем или иным районом.
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an old unit of territorial division of settlements, covering one or more streets (craftsmen's end, fishermen's end). As a rule, such a division arise in settlements and small towns, and later became this or that district.

So a division of a village or small town called "Blind End", meaning it was inhabited by blind people or was a dead end would seem possible. There are two villages in Leningradskaya Oblast called simply Конец today, both situated southeast and east of Lake Ladoga, but it doesnt look like it's any of them.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Religious Character
« on: July 30, 2017, 07:04:20 PM »
I’m expressing this thought in the context of Orthodox spirituality, according to which criticizing the hierarchs of the Church is considered to be a very serious spiritual offence. Especially for Alexandra, who was a diligent researcher of the works of the Church’s Fathers, to say something like this would be really strange. The Church Fathers, and Orthodox literature in general, is very clear on this. I’m sure Alexandra must have read and known about it. And, furthermore, I don’t believe that a spiritually cultivated soul, like the one Alexandra was, would hold such ideas for clergy, and even more for hierarchs.

Well, she totally mocked the Orthodox hierarchy by making an uneducated, lowly strannik with no official qualifications whatsoever her unofficial court chaplain and acting spiritual adviser, so I can imagine the Orthodox hierarchy were rather pissed in their silk robes even without that comment!

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“According to Lady Colin Campbell’s recent biography of the Queen Mother, the meanest girl of all toward Princess Mary among her extended family while she was growing up was Princess Alix of Hesse-Darmstadt, later Empress Alexandra Feodorovna of Russia. Mary and her itinerant family often spent holidays in Hesse-Darmstadt, where putting her in her lowly place was among Princess Alix’s favourite pastimes.”

Where exactly in Hesse-Darmstadt did the Tecks holiday? Certainly not in any of the grand-ducal residences, as they were not direct and close family. Not in Darmstadt, which was not a fashionable holiday destination for anyone. In any of the spa towns in the Hessian hinterland, like Bad Nauheim? I didn't think the Tecks could afford those fashionable watering holes and even if they did, how could little Princess Alix (5 years younger than Princess May) stuck in Darmstadt, Romrod or Windsor influence how her distant morganatic cousin was treated in any of the spa towns in her father's grand duchy? I think the blogger and / or Lady Colin Campbell confuse the Tecks with the Battenbergs at Heiligenberg outside Darmstadt or just invent a story to shock.

Do note that this blogger in the comments below the post discredits herself by claiming that King George V cavorted with prostitutes in Bognor Regis! And she has little understanding of the complex nuances of German princely politics when she claims the Hessian and other German royal families objected to Wilhelm II as a "nouveau-riche emperor".

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The Hohenzollern / Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« on: July 15, 2017, 08:32:17 AM »
A week ago Hereditary Prince Ernst August (junior) of Hanover married the London-based Russo-Czech cat suit designer (brand EKAT) Ekaterina Malysheva during ceremonies in Hannover and at Marienburg. His father was not present at the wedding due to conflicting opinions about the management of family properties.
See http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/5083998.html

Malysheva (Малышева) is a common Russian family name that can be translated as Young, Child, Little etc. There was a noble family with this name (see https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B, but it is not likely that the Princess of Hanover, who was raied in Prague as the daughter of a Russian businessman, belongs to it.

In an interview with Tatler she says she was born and lived her first years in Apatiy on the Kola Pensinsula in the Murmansk region, where her father was a scientist. But she attended American international school in Prague and speaks English better than Russian. Nonetheless she assisted with Russian-English translation for a documentary about Pussy Riot.

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The Hohenzollern / Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:50:53 AM »
A week ago Hereditary Prince Ernst August (junior) of Hanover married the London-based Russo-Czech cat suit designer (brand EKAT) Ekaterina Malysheva during ceremonies in Hannover and at Marienburg. His father was not present at the wedding due to conflicting opinions about the management of family properties.
See http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/5083998.html

Malysheva (Малышева) is a common Russian family name that can be translated as Young, Child, Little etc. There was a noble family with this name (see https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B, but it is not likely that the Princess of Hanover, who was raied in Prague as the daughter of a Russian businessman, belongs to it.

A Slavophone Princess of Hanover raised on the banks of the Elbe's tributary the Vltava / Moldau should pay a visit to the ancient Slavophone region of the Electorate of Hanover: The Hanoverian Wendland (= Slavic land), where the last speaker of Polabian (po Labe = by the Elbe) died in 1756.

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Having Fun! / Re: The Enid Blyton Thread
« on: May 01, 2017, 08:18:01 AM »
Seriously!!!! Don't forget the ever so slightly sadistic " LASHINGS of ginger beer " in the picnic basket :-)

Haha, great, thanks for leading me to this apparantly famous parody of the series emphasizing exactly the features I noticed as a kid!
Five go mad in Dorset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_KfQ0pD2gw

But then I'm Norwegian and we are a strange lot: A well-known Norwegian children's author, Gro Dahle, is now writing a book about pornography for children! https://www.nrk.no/kultur/xl/_-det-er-ikke-sa-farlig-at-barn-ser-pa-porno-1.13491801

Norwegian children's books that had to be censured in the US: https://www.nrk.no/kultur/bok/dette-er-for-droyt-for-amerikanske-barn-1.13377055 (Swipe bar in the pictures to see differences between Norwegian and American covers, mostly issues with nudity, peeing and a knife!)

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Having Fun! / Re: The Enid Blyton Thread
« on: April 29, 2017, 07:50:43 AM »
I remember reading several of those short Five series books by Enid Blyton (as a Norwegian kid in pre-Internet days I assumed the author was a man) in Norwegian translation when I was 10-12, I suppose. What I most remember was the sexual tension in them, perhaps due to the focus on excitement, adventure, gender roles, transgressions, getting locked up in dark dungeons, kidnappings etc. by a mixed group of boys and girls coupled with a puritanical and prudish restraint typical of Britain in that age. And if I don't remember too wrong there were rather detailled descriptions of the looks of these kids and the adults they encountered.

To sum it up it was like: Here we have a group of beautiful blond children frolicking wildly (nude?) on a deserted beach when suddenly one of them falls into a dark dungeon dug by evil, predatory, swarthy robbers. Will he or she be saved or will he / she be left to the dark desires of the robbers who will have their way with him / her before his / her brave and beautiful friends can rescue her?

Entertaining, but gave young pre-pubescent me some strange ideas.....

I think the sexual aspect came off so strongly because these books had no other theme, like other children's books which were about friendship, family, imagination, good vs. evil, finding yourself, knowledge, moral dillemmas, love, life, death etc. These books were only about transgressive adventures, with a cast of children that made no impression on the reader except their physical presence and agility. In short these books were like a children's version of the works of Marquis de Sade's!

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Having Fun! / Re: Russian Quizzo/Trivia Round
« on: March 11, 2017, 04:20:14 PM »
Which large Russian island is named in honour of an important Romanov relative, with the neighbouring island not named in honour of this relative's mother, as one would presume, but in honour of the predecessor of a princess of an Ascanian fief on the Lahn?

edubs almost cracked this one, but no-one took it further:

These Russian islands are part of the Arctic Franz Joseph Land / Земля Франца-Иосифа in the Barents Sea (east of Svalbard / Spitsbergen). (And as a Norwegian I of course think they should have gone with the post-Revolutionary proposal Fridtjof Nansen Land. (Another pre-Revolutionary proposal was Romanov Land / Земля Романовых!))

The large westernmost islands of the archipelago are called Prince George Land / Земля Георга, named by a British explorer for George V of the UK. The neighbouring island Alexandra Land / Земля Александры was named in honour of Grand Duchess Alexandra Pavlovna (1783–1801), married to Archduke Joseph of Austria, Paladin of Hungary, who after her early and tragic death due to childbirth remarried to Princess Hermine of Anhalt-Bernburg-Schaumburg-Hoym (Anhalt = Ascanian, Schaumburg is on the Lahn - see this post for more info). This according to the English Wikipedia, which leads you to believe this island was named by the Austrian-Hungarian North Pole Expedition who named the archipelago itself.

But then I now see that the Russian and German Wikipedias claim that Alexandra Land was actually named by a British explorer after George V's mother, Alexandra of Denmark! It is more logical, as the Austrian-Hungarian expedition seems to have concentrated on the islands further east (Prince Rudolph Island, Wiener Neustad Island! etc.)

Anyways lots of turn-of-the-century royal names up there in the realm of die Könige auf dem ewigen Eis - the kings on the eternal ice. (Ostalgic pop hit about polar bears from DDR / GDR.)


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I think the name is Hans Otto Adolph von Koetteritz.  (Instead of Herr Otto Adolph v. Koetteritz.)
Father's name is probably Hans Ernst Julius von Koetteritz. His rank is Oberstleutnant, Lieutenant Colonel.

NB the name Hans is a short form of Johannes and can as such also be rendered as Johann (and Russified into Ivan).

I doubt Yulevich / Julevitch / Юльевич is a matronymic. Much more likely it's a patronymic from Julius (German) / Jules (French) / Юлий / Yuliy (Russian). Doesn't necessarily have to be from a biological father, but possibly from an (Orthodox) godfather.





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Some Lieutenant Colonel Julius von Kötteritz (from Saxony, died in Vilnius in 1819) from a database of foreigners in pre-Revolutionary Russia:
http://dokumente.ios-regensburg.de/amburger/index.php?id=27718&mode=1

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