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More information!

It has been changed to a permanent fantasy-adventure film, and they added an enchantress named Yara who is most likely the reason she is even in 1988 in the first place.

Alexei's actor has been changed from female to a male, so there's that.

Tatiana has not been cast from what I've seen, but Alexandra, Olga and Maria are in the movie. The actress playing Maria is virtually unknown so I have no idea how old she is, but Olga is being played by a 15 year old which doesn't make sense as she was 21 in 1917.

And if it doesn't get even more horrible a character called Yakov has been mentioned. It better not be who I think it is.

It's rumored to be a reboot of the 1997 animated movie but even that wasn't as insensitive as this.

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Larissa Tudor
« on: August 23, 2018, 10:23:46 PM »
That's an appealing theory. You could wish that's what happened.  Poor Tatiana, the sister so conscientious about doing her duty to serve her beloved Russia, and the one taking care of her mom and brother at the end there, she clung, I guess as a means of coping, to the hope they might be exiled, and she might get to live the life of a regular English girl. Poignant that Larissa got to do it, at least for a bit. And that image of Owen and Larissa, heard by their neighbours as laughing and enjoying each others company in their backyard, you could see Tatiana in a similar situation. I forget which acquaintance said she dreamed of having great friendships, and there's that amazing Romanian film of her sitting in the middle of the picture shoot, chattering and laughing away with all and sundry, with Olga and Maria shyly quiet at either end. And that amazing kid who came to sit on Tatiana's lap for the last photo, then runs up to the camera, as if, with her modern dress and hairdo, she had ran from Tatiana's time right into ours.

Larissa in Constantinople is mysterious. How long and how she got there. And why. White slave trade of Russian girls who wind up in Turkey goes on now and I guess was rife back then with so many refugees. Maybe there was a rescue but it was Tudor helping Larissa escape.D

The little girl was Princess Ileana of Romania, and I believe from my analysis of the Romanian/Russian photoshoot video that they were all trying to figure out a better place for Ileana to sit, with her ending up in Tatiana's lap.

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Larissa Tudor
« on: August 20, 2018, 02:59:33 PM »
I'm just reading Occleshaw's book. A spooky tale of mysteries and coincidences. A few things not mentioned above, a witness heard her yelling at a small boy in Russian, and another witness, who picked Tatiana's pictures as her, asked, "she was a Russian princess, wasn't she?", as if it was a common rumour and no big deal, I guess with all the Russian aristocracy around. Another witness recalled Larissa saying her happiest time in England was the three years she had spent in Yorkshire, which squeezes the timeline of her being an exotic dancer in Constantinople, but would explain how she got back into England to marry Tudor. Occleshaw explains she wouldn't be allowed in England unless she had special help or unless she was previously a resident.

Also he only confines his speculations that Larissa was Tatiana. Never wonders if Larissa just lied to Tudor about being Tatiana, everybody else seemed to be doing it. Or maybe Tudor was as bad a Romanov fan as us and just flipped when he saw Larissa's Tatiana looks and married her. I could relate to that.  All that flowers on the grave on Tatiana's birthday and his hermetic behavior after her death is spooky. As is seeing the picture of his second wife with Tatiana's hairdo. And her grave being disturbed right on the Romanov burial. Spooky stuff.

Occleshaw doesn't  mention if Larissa died suddenly or not. Tudor collapsing at her burial suggests it was unexpected, I would think. The certificate says heart exhaustion. Is that a heart attack? A broken heart right after the murder date? A murder was never suggested, but it was the same year as the murder of Michelle Anchess. Just saying. What a tale!

I believe she might have been a member of high Russian society, but not a Russian Princess (and I don't mean a Grand Duchess!). If she was, we would know about it by now. Her dying on the anniversary of the Romanovs death and her grave being 'desecrated' around about the same time of the first burial is suspicious though, and I do not believe that Larissa claimed to be Tatiana to anyone, her neighbors and Occleshaw did that for her. A teacher of mine actually suggested that she was Tatiana, and when the first burial site was found Olga and Anastasia (he believes M was missing) were the only daughters in the grave, Russia knew that L WAS T and took her body in the middle of the night to bury her with the others, saying Tatiana was found with most of her family and servants and not buried in a grave in England. Of course there's no evidence that the coffin was taken out of the ground and opened OR that Larissa's body is missing, but that's what he believes.

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Larissa Tudor
« on: August 13, 2018, 12:56:39 PM »
Now that we know the family are all accounted for, is anyone else just curious on who Larissa Tudor was? I do believe she may have been just a Tatiana look-like or doppelganger, but her background is so foggy and unknown if I was alive before Tatiana's body was found I would have definitely believed Larissa was her.

She died eight years after the Romanovs, to the day even. Why did she use Feodorovna as her patronymic (unless it was the obvious reason; her real father was called Feodor if Adolph Haouk was not her real one), why was June 10th associated with her (It could have actually been her birthday and just a coincidence, or the day her and her husband met) and is her body still in her grave? (On 30th of July 1998 it was found that the railings surrounding her grave had been removed and some stone masons arrived later and cleaned the headstone and the marble surrounding the grave, this was all done without the Tudor family's permission or the Council's knowledge).

Now that the Romanovs are found, I'm definitely interested in her specifically.

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No, that was Maria and Anastasia.

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Having Fun! / Re: Question about the 1997 movie Anastasia!
« on: August 08, 2018, 07:32:05 PM »
OTM are kind of based on their formal 1913 photographs. Olga has the ribbon in her hair, Tatiana's hair is up and Maria's is down. When they appear next, in the nightmare, they all look generally the same but Maria wears a green bathing suite rather then purple. They made sure to make Tatiana the tallest, so you should give them that at least.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« on: June 14, 2018, 05:37:53 PM »


A unique and rare photo of Tatiana holding her wig.

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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia May Have had a Crush?
« on: May 09, 2018, 07:14:28 AM »
It's just a little silly thing the author made. It doesn't have to be 100% accurate, it wasn't like she was writing a book or anything. You really need to learn what 'constructive criticism' is before you trash on someone's work just because it isn't accurate enough for you.

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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia May Have had a Crush?
« on: May 07, 2018, 07:06:27 PM »
From Helen Azar's book on Maria and Anastasia:

"You probably see Viktor Erastovich from afar? - then I am envious of you!" - Anastasia to Nicholas, Sept 4 1915

"I am happy that Vikt. Erast. already arrived at your infirmary. Tell Shyvbzik that I share her joy in seeing him and following him if she deigns him with it." - Nicholas to Maria, June 3 1916

"Today we went to an early Obednya as Mama received communion, while we pretended to be the public because no one except us and Anya was there - my “husband” was there but he left.” - Anastasia to Nicholas Aug 8, 1916 - I think she probably means Zborovsky here

There's a bit more I've read about Zborovsky, but I haven't transcribed the notes for it yet. I know he had a sister Katya who later died in the gulag- Anastasia's famous "Good-bye. Don't forget me." comes from a letter to her. The same book from which the quotes come also identify him as having a wife named Rimma, so it was most definitely just a hopeless schoolgirl crush.

So it seems 'Anastasia never had a crush/Anastasia was too tomboyish to have a crush' was wrong after all.

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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia May Have had a Crush?
« on: May 07, 2018, 09:23:56 AM »
From what I've seen, it seems Anastasia had a crush on Viktor Zborovsky. Nicholas wrote in a wartime letter to Olga that he gave his blessing.

Do you have a source for this? I haven't heard of Anastasia having a crush-except for Dimitri Pavlovich, but all the girls did-or this Viktor.

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The Imperial Family / Baby Name Announcements?
« on: April 25, 2018, 08:32:16 PM »
The recent birth of the Prince and how they announce the name has got me thinking on how the Romanovs, especially the Tsar, announced the name of their children.

I know they announce the birth with a number of cannon shots from Peter and Paul Fortress depending on the gender, but how did they inform the public of the baby name before it hit the newspapers?

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Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga Photographs IV
« on: April 03, 2018, 02:06:11 AM »




Two miniatures of baby Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna (1895-1918) by Fabergé work master Mikhail Perkhin at the Cleveland Museum of Art.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« on: January 16, 2018, 12:09:14 AM »


Tatiana and Olga, Livadia, 1907.

Olga is smiling at her sister while Tatiana looks to be running with a hand over her mouth.

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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Possible Marriage Candidates
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:37:20 AM »
I know this thread is old but have we checked to see if any other royal couple considered Anastasia as a bride for one of their sons because:

If one is to believe all that one hears, Queen Alexandrine would be most happy if circumstances proved favourable to an alliance between her eldest son, the present Crown Prince of Denmark, and one of the younger daughters of her cousin the Tsar. Such an alliance would bring to her house a princess who, of all those whom her boy could marry, would be the one that Denmark would acclaim with the greatest joy.

The Royal Marriage Market of Europe, 1915.

If this is true then we know that Alexandrine had Maria and Anastasia down as suitable and likely spouses for her son.

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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« on: January 07, 2018, 11:04:50 AM »


Grand Duchess Anastasia with her mother, Alexandra and two nurses when Anastasia had diphtheria. 1907.

Anastasia either has her hair up or has it cut, maybe because the medicine made it fall out?

Oh wow, I never knew Anastasia had Diphtheria.

Yep. Luckily Alexandra noticed it rather early and quickly and was able to contain it so it didn't effect Olga, Tatiana, Maria and Alexei. Her early experiences with the disease sure came in handy when it hit her household.

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