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Forum Announcements / Re: Where do you come from?
« on: May 15, 2005, 02:25:54 PM »
Greetyings, y'all!  Great to hear where everyone's from!

I'm not nearly as interesting as the rest of you.

Born in Minnesota, moved around a lot: Saskatchewan, Texas, Iowa, South Dakota, back to Minnesota...small town like "Mayberry". Not too exciting but the kids turned out okay...

Am English and German on mom's side; Norwegian and (possibly...still working on it...) Chippewa on my dad's side.  (How to explain the blonde hair, fair skin and blue eyes???) (nature, of course!)

Am a distant relative of Abraham Lincoln, through his mother, Nancy Hanks.  HER family is originally from England: Hanckes or something like that.

Great getting to know everyone here.  I feel like I have friends all over the world!  Am expecting a cup of tea if/when I show up at your door....


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The Alexander Palace / Re: Life in the Alexander Palace
« on: May 12, 2005, 11:34:26 PM »
This is a very interesting topic to me.  I appreciate all who have contributed so far.

I have always wondered about how some of the ordinary things were done at the palace if one is a Grand Duchess.  For example:

Who did the girls' hair?
Did they almost always wear white? Even for "playclothes"?

The rooms were so very large...how were they filled?

Were there guards at all the doors to all the rooms?  Were they in colorful uniforms?

Did the young girls run and race down the long hallways, etc.?

I once read that their aunt Olga held "children's parties" fairly often on Sundays, so the little Grand Duchesses could play with other children and have a little fun and freedom.  Was this true?

Thank you all for your very interesting information!

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Palaces in St. Petersburg / Re: Private rooms of the Winter Palace
« on: May 12, 2005, 11:11:42 PM »
Does anyone know anything about the Malachite room?  Where it was, how it was used, does it still exist, etc.?

Just wondering.

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Have just started reading "The Amber Room".  So far, so good!  Looks very interesting.  However, I have to put it down for awhile until I can get some other demanding work done.  Will get back to you when I can!

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Wonderful topic!  It's great to know other books that are enjoyed by those on this board.  I, too, will print out people's "favorite's" lists.

I can't remember the title of one book I enjoyed, but it was by Marie or Maria Avinov, or something like that.  Guess I don't recall as much as I thought I did...!  Anyway, I DO recall that I liked it.

Do any of you know if any of the books you've mentioned can be read online for free?  Ah! There I go, dreaming again...

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Nicholas II / Re: Nicholas II was Unprepared to Rule. Why?
« on: May 07, 2005, 06:51:47 PM »
Very interesting comments.

This sort of reminds me of something I've recently come to understand about America's Civil War. Being a "Yankee" from Minnesota, who at one time lived in Texas, I was surprised that so many in the South really DID seem to "still be fighting the war."

Of course I understand that they lost so much...loved ones, property, a whole lifestyle, etc. changed forever.

But I've been reading a book...a journal, really...written by a woman during the last days of the Civil War, as she watched Richmond burning and realized that not only was the war over, but that they--the South--had lost.  AND, from what this woman had written, the devastating thing about it all was that all the deaths, the suffering, the sacrifice, etc., had been lost IN VAIN.  FOR NOTHING!  This was the attitude of so many at that time.

Now THAT'S something that I CAN understand.  The South lost almost everything, in exchange for NOTHING...and, of course, those who did survive the war never did regain their previous lives.

So I'm wondering if that sort of thing is like what happened with the Russian Revolution.  People made great sacrifices, and awful things DID happen...YET, as was mentioned before, the lives of the majority of the people had not improved much, if at all...and in some cases became much, much worse.

I'm thinking that THAT is the hardest thing to deal with.

Of course, we are all disillusioned with our governments about one point or another...but in the cases of the Civil War and the Russian Revolution, the cost was far too great and positively affected far too few people.

Which begs the next question:  was it worth it?

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I kind of hate to even think of this, but am wondering what the rest of you think:

When do you think...or know...or guess that the IF KNEW what would eventually happen to them at the end?

Did they ever give up hope of escape?  

Do you think they knew what would happen, but just not exactly when?

It does sound like, to me, they were startled when the "verdict" was read to them, seconds before the end.

I wonder if part of that shock was that they never really believed it would happen, or that it wouldn't happen THEN, or to all of them, etc.

I don't know if anyone can ever be prepared for a situation like that.

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Nicholas II / Re: Nicholas II was Unprepared to Rule. Why?
« on: May 05, 2005, 12:46:26 PM »
Great discussion!

It's fairly easy to place fault or blame...N2 SHOULD have been better prepared for his future role (I wonder why it is that the present rulers of countries are always reluctant to train and educate their heirs in matters of State...even Queen Victoria was reluctant to let her heir, Albert, in on the "business" side of things.  Same seems true for the current queen...she, too, seems to show a bit of reluctance to give her son any real, meaningful work, etc.  I wonder why that is.  Is it a sense of denial, that old "I'll never die" feeling, or that there will always be time, etc., or, could there be a true sense of jealousy towards one's own heir?

I don't know. It's true that Alix pounded the idea of autocracy into her husband's head...you know how mothers can be when they're dealing with their children's futures!!  But he was responsible, too, in that he seemed to hear only what he wanted to hear and refused to listen to--or to believe--any kind of critism or "bad" news.  Although it is difficult to change the whole form of a government (witness current Iraq), I think it was pretty obvious that Nicholas was not ready to give ground on almost any level...largely because of his listening to his wife's plea for the legacy of their son.

Yes, this is an interesting discussion, and we probably won't come to any real solutions.  But I do think it's good for us to try to understand what happened and why it happened.  Reasons, versus blame.  After all, you know what they say about history...if we don't learn from it we're bound to repeat it.

A question I've always thought about is: were the revolution, the abdication and the assassinations of the imperial family inevitable?

Could any one thing or person REALLY have stopped what had already been in motion for years?

One more question:  As sad as we feel about what happened to the Romaov family, shouldn't we also feel sad about the way everyone else was living in Russia at that time?  I don't mean the aristrocrats...I mean the majority of the population.  Overworked, undereducated, starving, with no hope that things would ever get any better.

Yes, I feel terribly, terribly sorry for the violent and brutal end of the Romanov family.

But I also realize that, while they were alive, they lived very, very, very well.  Far better than most of us can even imagine. And I'm happy for them about that.  I'm sorry they had to suffer so later, but in the meantime they lived in beautiful palaces, were waited on constantly, wore beautiful clothing and jewelry, etc.  So, speaking from a purely materialistic point of view, they had pretty good lives, although much too short.  And NO ONE deserved the kind of treatment they received in the end!

However, the majority of the Russian population never even came close to that kind of lifestyle...and in fact led very, very difficult lives, with no hope of finding ways to better themselves.

Now, I know there are always exceptions to what I've said...but I'm just speaking in generalities.

Actually, I'm sad for all of Russia.  I feel the people have had a long, difficult struggle, and I commend them greatly for all they have accomplished under difficult leadership.  I would love to someday visit Russia and drink in the beauty of the architecture and art and music, etc.

But what I would love most dearly is to get to know Russia's people.  I have so much to learn from them.  This forum is as close as I'll ever get, I think.  But I'm so grateful for the opportunity given here to learn more and think more about this fascinating country and its colorful history.  Many thanks!

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I agree with the "shock" theory.  He had surrounded himself with "yes" people, and had an unrealistic picture of reality for a very long time.  Also, the only person he REALLY listened to was his wife.  He was a wonderful family man, but was in no way prepared to be Tsar, and he knew it and his mother knew, and a lot of people knew it.  I think he just wanted to go home, to his family, and chop wood and dig in his garden and not have to be Tsar anymore. I don't think it ever occured to him that his family would be harmed. At this moment, his whole world was closing in on him, and all he wanted was to go home to the one person who loved him and believed in him...his wife.  To them, family was everything.  Which is not in the least a BAD thing...but for the Tsar...he never did find the balance that was needed to be both a Tsar and a family man.

On the other spectrum, in England, it seems that the royalty know how to be good royals, but sort of have the "family" thing messed up.

Balance is a very, very hard thing to find...for us all.  I can't even imagine what it must be like for royalty.

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The Imperial Family / Re: Historical Anecdotes
« on: March 27, 2005, 12:36:36 PM »
Thank you again, all, for these prescious anecdotes!  Reading them, for the first time, I'm actually beginning to understand, a little, the personalities of the imperial family, and how they related to each other and other people.  These stories have really touched my heart in a special way, and has brought me closer to understanding the family as "real" people.  They are very, very special, and I really appreciate hearing them from everyone.  Again, many thanks!

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The Imperial Family / Re: Historical Anecdotes
« on: March 25, 2005, 11:13:24 PM »
This is such a wonderful thread!  What a good idea, and the stories are marvelous.  Thank you all!  I especially enjoy hearing from you, haiku.  Your stories are just delightful.  You should write a book!

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The Imperial Family / Re: The Imperial children "sad,sheltered" life?
« on: March 11, 2005, 08:29:53 PM »
Am enjoying all the valuable information and speculation.  About writing notes: I have never in person seen a real palace, but in pictures, to me, they seem HUGE.  Can you imagine a working, unhealthy mother of five trying to run around the palace, looking for her children, to tell them to wipe their noses or something?  Seems to me that just distance alone would argue for note-writing, sent by servants, as the most efficient and quickest way to get word to one's child, unless one is with them at the moment.

I also feel that royals, by their very nature, are somewhat isolated from the "common man" and probably don't have a realistic idea of how non-royals raise their children.  It's just the nature of the beast, I think, that being royal also means being a little different from the rest of us.  Even today, Queen Elizabeth's children have had problems with their marriages...some due to their parents' lack of involvement with them during their upbringing.

Perhaps the "job" of being a royal is much, much different and more difficult than any--or most of--us can even imagine.

Also, perhaps some royals seem so very isolated because to them, they're the only ones who can trust each other.

While I think it would have been marvelous to have lived in a huge, beautiful home, and have had gorgeous dresses and jewels and the very best of everything, and been waited on all the time, I can also see how that kind of life can easily interfere with self-discovery and a limited world view.

Just thinking.

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I don't know very much at all about this, but am wondering if this Radziwell is in any way connected to the sister of Jacqueline Kennedy, who was once married to a "Stas" Radziwell. Does anyone know?

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Oh, Bluetoria, my heart hurts for you.  It seems you have done a tremendous work and service that so many of us would greatly appreciate and would love to add to our personal libraries.  One thing to remember, though, is that publishers are really just people, and they have opinions and agendas and jobs to do, etc., so often their choice to publish or not is so subjective...even "political" at times.  The rejections are most likely not meant to be personal, so please don't take them that way.  Sometimes it takes time to find just the right publisher...or to find your own way of publishing and marketing and distributing, etc.  I know this for a fact because I am a book editor, and I think people would be amazed at the true reasons why a book gets published or not.

There are many people on this board that would be glad to purchase your book.  Perhaps you might like to make copies of some the comments written here and show them to your (future) publisher.  You already have a market right here!

Also...just an idea...have you considered condensing a chapter or two of your book and offering it as a magazine article for "Royalty" or other similar magazines?  Sometimes publishing excerpts is a good way to whet people's appetites to read "the rest of the story". Just a thought.

Please keep us updated as to the progress of your quest! I'm sure I speak for many when I say I can't wait to read your book!

God bless.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Empress Alexandra and Maria Feodorovna
« on: January 14, 2005, 08:02:32 PM »
My, what an interesting discussion! So many new things to think about....About the "Aunty" thing: I wonder if that's what Ella, Alix's sister, called MF after her marriage to NA's uncle, and perhaps young Alix just copied her sister?  Just a thought.

Also, I have a feeling MF wasn't ready to give up her husband, her throne, her power, her jewels, her son, etc., to ANYBODY.  Tough time for all concerned.

Ming

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