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The Yussupovs / Re: Your favorite wacky Felix story
« on: September 18, 2009, 08:48:16 AM »
This was told to me by Irina's nephew, Grand Duke Mikhail Fedorovich Romanoff:

I think it was in Berlin or somewhere in Germany when Soviets exposed Yussoupoff's treasures as part of Soviet museum collections. Felix was so frustrated becuase he did not win the process of restitution of his family art pieces. He was very spontaneous and at the final day of exhibition walked in one of the exhibition halls, took two ancient Chinese vases (which were previously in his Moika palace) and walked towards the door. The guards were devastated and screamed for help, when the chief of the collection supervision rushed into the room. Felix stood still holding the vases but said in his calm voice addressing to the art supervisor: " They are lost for you anyway! You move - I drop them! You let me go - and I save them for the history!"

You know what - the guy let him leave!



 

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The Yussupovs / Re: The Sumarokov-Elston family - family of Felix-senior
« on: September 18, 2009, 08:33:43 AM »
Hi all; just a quickie, I am doing a project on a small graveyard where my brother is buried here in Ireland and on the monument beside his grave is information regarding Zenaide Bashkiroff (Burke), daughter of countess soumarokoff-elston, who is buried there, any info relating to her would be of great interest to me!

How interesting! This is where Felix Yussupoff's best friend from the teen-years found her last rest. 

She was his closest friend and confident and  shared with brothers Yussupoff their games and projects.  She was not of exceptional beauty, but the had a real character, which made her to be rather attractive. You can see her with both Yussoupoff brothers on the picture on this site under teen years section. She is sitting in the first row near Nikolai Yussupoff.

http://krasnykh.com/eng/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=17&Itemid=67



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Forum Announcements / Re: Where do you come from?
« on: September 18, 2009, 08:19:55 AM »
For those who dont know me:

I am Russian and am an author of the first documental biography of Prince FELIX YOUSSUPOFF published in Russia in 2003.
Additional information on my research is available on my site in English:

www.krasnykh.com/eng

My research for this book has convinced me to change my career from journalism to professional historical research. After working as news producer for two major American television networks in Moscow and excessive travelling I am now living in Paris.


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The Yussupovs / Re: Who could play the Yusupovs in a movie?
« on: September 10, 2009, 08:08:23 AM »
As far as I know Felix had dark hair...
still, Bale has very sharp features, but...you're right, he's ok for Felix. (especcialy if compare with Depp and Leto)
In his 30th Felix had rather dark brown hair & turquoise-transparent green eyes as well as his mother. Is there an actor with such features today? Maybe in Germany of UK? )))

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The Yussupovs / Re: Felix Yusupov and Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch
« on: September 09, 2009, 08:03:43 AM »
i always get upset whenever it seems someone has fabricated their life in their biography, especially someone with access to so much history. i feel there is quite a bit of ambiguity about the revolution and how it truly played out, because there was so much propaganda afterwards. i wish people felt more of a responsibilty to the truth when writing about themselves, rather than wishing their lives were more exciting. If Felix pretended to have a larger role than he did or even simple exaggerations about his behavior, he is changing how people think of the revolution, the imperial family, russians at the time. when one had such a hand in history, one has absolutely no place fabricating or stretching the truth in any manner: leaving the rest of us to say: we'll never know how it really happened, because the ones who would have told the truth weren't writing anything.  :'(

Sasha_18

You are right that we will never know the truth of what actually did happen.

However, before getting too upset about the truth in Felix's memoirs we shall take into consideration the reason why he wrote it in the first place. Vain as he was, Felix still was less concerned about his own role in the history than by the financial problems of his family after the war. The people of his circle were "not made to work on the factories" (and still many of them in exile did have to learn to do it), so they used any possible way to earn money by the means known to them.  By writing memoirs, for example.   

In our times it seems strange that someone close to the country TOP decision maker will mot want to say something about his own influence on the politics, but for the court members like Yussoupoffs it was rather normal to stay away from revealing the truth breaking the word of honor. It is also important to mention that he was not representing just any nobility but those who were related to the Royal family  MEMBERS. We donít have equivalent of this social institutions in our days. Life shuffles present favourites every 5-10 years, so there is no attachment to the image of the beloved "country-ruler".

Having said that, I just want to reassure you, that during his life Felix Yussupoff has already heard everything we have to say to him today ))))

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If the information on the grave (born Febr 14th 1868, died June 15th 1888) is right, then Ashanti01's "Tatiana died at the age of 22" and Lizkrasnykh's "died in 1886" are not correct.

Thanks Rudy for pointing it out. True, I messed up years. She did die in 1888.

To answer the previous questions about the grave opening, it's a usual practice during all revolutions... (Russian, French). Poor crowd of all times hoped to find the jewels and gold in the coffins. As for Tatiana, the old village residents claim that both her and Nikolai's bodies were thrown to the nearby river which is going through estate.

Sad, but it was also a common symbol of all revolutions of all times. 

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Just some additional information on Princess Tatiana Yussupoff:

Spending several years in Russian archives, working on Felix's documenatl biography, I was surprised to see how little information is available on his aunt Tatiana, who died in 1886. Her destiny was not a subject of my research, but since I began my research from the wedding of Zinaida Yusupoff to Felix Sumarokoff-Elston, I had to read some correspondence of Zinaida related to her youth.

It was very interesting to see that in all family archives there were only 3 pictures of Tatiana, whose family nick name was "Tanyok" or "Aunt Tanyok" (Танек or тетя Танек). One was a portrat of Tatiana in her teen years (published on this forum yearlier) that Zinaida kept all her life in her study in Arkhangelskoe, one picture of Tatiana with her sister and nepfew Nikolai and another one was a photo of Zinaida (8-9 yers old) with her sister in Vienna.

Then one day, in Russian Historical archive I met a historian-amateur, who was trying to find out the reason of such mistery around Tatianas's name. As all girls of her epoch she kept an everyday diary and the strange thing was to see that in her last diary-book there were missing (ripped off) all pages with the notes on the last weeks of her life. That pushed this historian to read her previous diaries during the 1885-1886.
His research only confirmed the idea that Yussupoff's family was surrounded by a mystery.

Apparently Tatiana was madly in love with a young man called Paul, who was living in the nearby estate... (Well, could have it been be handsome Grand Duke Paul Alexandrovich?)

Then, everyone in Arkhangelskoe village, who knew the whitnesses of her grave opening by the bolsheviks, said that when the grave was opened there were found not only a woman's body but also a body of a baby (Who could have it been? Her baby brother Boris...or her own child?????)   

The other old-timers of Arkhangelskoe claimed that locals insisted that the young princess drowned in the river...

The only thing I could add from what I read myself from the Yussupoff archives, that whatever was a real reason of Tatiana's death, the day of her death Zinaida always comemmorated by spending whole day in the church.   

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The Yussupovs / Re: Felix Yusupov and Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch
« on: September 05, 2009, 11:19:05 AM »
If these rumors were being said in earshot of the Imperial Family, history would be influenced by their decision not to marry Olga and Dmitri, not to consider Dmitri next in line, etc. I'm just wondering who was saying these rumors, and who heard them.

Sasha_18, as an author of Felix's documental biography, who spent 4 years in Russian archives with original documents, I can only tell you, that many of the rumors on Felix-DP relationship probably appeared already after the revolution. Not to mention that nothing like that was ever mentioned in the correspondence of Russian courtisans between themselves.

Funny, but I would say that prince Yussupoff had invented a lot in his memoirs.

For example, his famous story of dressing as a woman and singing in the cabaret. I had checked not only the letters of his close friends and brother to each other but also all central newspapers of the period and ...to my surprise had not seen any mention of the his outrageous behavior. More than that at that time, he appeared to be a rather banal young men with mustache, whose identity was outshined by his brother's. In fact, Nikolai WAS a real RULES BREAKER!

So I tend to think, that Felix appropriated to himself in his book a lot from the extravagant behavior of his brother....But this is already another story!

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The Yussupovs / Re: Books on the Yusupovs
« on: August 24, 2009, 07:52:19 AM »
Thank you for posting this wonderful link. You have several unique photographs. I'm assuming the book is in Russian? Also how can this book be ordered and do you ship to the United States?

Thanks

Ashanti01,
yes, my book is only in Russian so far. As I wrote to Stella, I have my copies and the can ship them from Paris to the US too. You can write me to my e-mail address: lizkrasnykh@hotmail.com for more detales.
Cheers,
Elizabeth. 

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The Yussupovs / Re: Books on the Yusupovs
« on: August 24, 2009, 07:47:42 AM »
Stella,

I have kept some the author's copies so can ship 3 of them to you. I live in Paris so it shoudn't be a problem. I will get back to you shortly with more detailes. My e-mail: lizkrasnykh@hotmail.com

Regards,
Elizabeth

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The Yussupovs / Re: Books on the Yusupovs
« on: August 22, 2009, 07:30:07 AM »
Dear all!

I have to apologize for being slow in promoting my book - documental biography of prince Felix Youssoupoff- published in Russia in 2003. After all these years of the search of publisher I can only regret that English speaking audience still has no access to the unique archive documents published in my research.

I know this gap has been partly filled by some pictures several times presented in this forum without any reference to my book, however now I am happy to let you all know that the short outline and many unpublished before pictures are available on my newly created site both in Russian and English (some things are still to be improved) on

www.krasnykh.com or www.krasnykh.com/eng

Please note that if you copy anything to other publication reference to the book is a must. (for the respect of work which has been done!)

I am happy to answer all your questions in Russian, English or French.

Best regards,

Elizabeth Krasnykh

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