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If you're prepared to have your Tatiana marry a mere Prince of the Imperial Blood, how about Oleg Konstantinovich (1892-1914)?

Or there are Boris of Bulgaria, George of Greece and Alexander of Serbia, now that Olga is already spoken for.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 19, 2017, 01:26:02 PM »
The Kaiser's parents were first introduced when his mother was 14, though his father was 24, and they married when she was 17.

However, if you have a romance between your Edward and Olga in 1911, I think you had better have their parents insisting that they cannot marry for at least two years, and preferably a bit longer - until Edward is 21.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 19, 2017, 02:00:44 AM »
Writing 'factual' historical fiction is good too, especially when you are able to find a logical explanation for something inexplicable.

There is a strange episode in the career of Edward IV in 1469 when he was taken prisoner by Warwick the Kingmaker without any resistance. In my unpublished novel my explanation is a simple one - he has been prostrated by dysentery and is unable to flee.

Ann

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I agree entirely.

Just for starters, Ekaterina's father made Alexander her guardian in the expectation that he would look after her, not seduce her!

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:54:56 PM »
Smallish point.

Prince Henry was called Harry within the family.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 13, 2017, 02:17:51 PM »
Prince Albert was 20 when he married in 1840.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 13, 2017, 11:22:59 AM »
Nicholas was born in 1868 so he was 22 in 1890.

Slightly on the young side to marry by contemporary standards (age at marriage was generally going up) but not likely to cause any major concerns.

The youngest royal bridegroom of that era was Alfonso XIII of Spain, who married within days of his 20th birthday in 1906. As a posthumous only son with no uncles and the rival Carlist line very much around, he had a particular need to produce heirs.

Karl Eduard, Duke of Coburg married in 1905 as soon as he was 21. He was in a similar position to Alfonso, though without the rivals.

Andrew of Greece and Alice of Battenberg, parents of the Duke of Edinburgh, were 21 and 18 when they married in 1903, and there was some family concern that they were too young.

I think some comments on the lines of 'Nicky is really rather young' would be appropriate. Albert Victor was 26 in 1890, so at the perfect age.

Hope that helps

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 13, 2017, 07:24:34 AM »
19 was a reasonable age for princesses to marry at that time, so you can realistically set the marriage in 1890.

Marie Louise was the only one the the Schleswig-Holsteins to marry, and did so aged 18. The marriage was a disaster, but that was another matter.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 13, 2017, 03:46:33 AM »
A fictitious daughter of Christian and Helena born in 1868 would be a sensible age to marry in 1890, but Nicholas would still be rather young - the ideal age for royal bridegrooms was 26.

However, fitting her in between Christian Victor, born 14 April 1867, and Albert, born 28 February 1869, is going to be a bit of a squeeze - three children in 22 months. You might be better putting her between Helena Victoria, born 3 May 1870, and Marie Louise, born 12 August 1872. Some time in the early summer of 1871 would fit, and she would then be 19 in 1890.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 11, 2017, 02:33:43 PM »
All your candidates are quite a bit older than Nicholas, apart from Elizabeth of Mecklenburg, which would really rule them out, given that Nicholas was heir apparent. The only royal husband I can think of who was more than a few months younger than his wife was Haakon VII of Norway, who was three years younger than Maud of Wales. However, at the time of their marriage, Haakon merely the second son of Frederik VIII of Denmark, and his elder brother, the future Christian X, could be expected to marry and produce sons, as indeed he did.

I wonder whether the most realistic solution would be to invent someone - add an extra daughter to an existing family (CS Forester gave the Duke of Wellington a fictitious sister, for example).

The fictitious daughter of the Duke of Clarence and Avondale would be Princess X of Clarence and Avondale, but probably just referred to as Princess X of Clarence.  How about Princess Charlotte of Clarence?

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: A New AU fic - title, ideas, help with accuracy?
« on: September 11, 2017, 10:56:20 AM »
Interesting idea.

Two ladies under consideration as brides for Nicholas were Helene of Orleans (1871-1951), who subsequently married the Duke of Aosta, a cousin of Vittorio Emanuele III of Italy, and Margaret of Prussia (1872-1954), youngest sister of the Kaiser, who married Prince Friedrich Karl of Hesse.

Both these gentlemen were well away from inheriting thrones, so your having Nicholas marry either Helene or Margaret would not create major complications with other royal families.

Otherwise, I thought of a daughter of either Frederik VIII of Denmark or George I of Greece, but all of them were Nicholas's first cousins, so putting them within the prohibited degrees of the Orthodox Church.

Had Alexandra married Prince Albert Victor, she would have been HRH the Duchess of Clarence. Had AV died in 1892 leaving a son (a posthumous son?), the son (Edward perhaps? AV was called Eddy by his intimates and signed himself Edward), the son would then become Duke of Clarence and Alexandra would continue to be Duchess of Clarence until her son married. At that point she would become  the Dowager Duchess of Clarence, to distinguish her from her daughter in law, unless by then her son was king or Prince of Wales, when she would continue to be Duchess of Clarence. As a parallel, Queen Victoria's mother remained simply HRH the Duchess of Kent after her husband's death, since there was no other Duke and thus no other Duchess to cause confusion.

Hope that helps

Ann

Since Nicholas was born in 1868

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Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:00:23 PM »
James may know.

Otherwise, stick to what is credible. find out what sort of vessels were in use on the Volga for trading and transport purposes, and have your characters take over a few of them and equip them with machine guns and perhaps ancient naval guns (you would need to be able to get hold of the latter).

Hope that helps

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: September 08, 2017, 03:03:32 AM »
I agree. The Volga offers much more scope.

Ann

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Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: September 07, 2017, 11:35:38 AM »
Which river are you thinking of?

If you are thinking of the Neva, then presumably your plan is to go downstream from Lake Ladoga.

James, was there much merchant shipping going in and out of Petrograd in this period? It might be possible to land and agent or two in the guise of a seaman.

Ann

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The Hohenzollern / Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
« on: September 03, 2017, 04:02:30 AM »
Ah, my eyesight! Even with reading glasses I can't manage small print these days.

In the picture with her mother, VL's resemblance to her father is very obvious.

Ann

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