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Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: Yesterday at 05:36:24 PM »
The Federov Avtomat would be a real possibility but wiki has only 100 being made by the end of 1917 and most were made after 1920. Ammo would be no problem as it used the 6.5mm Japanese round and the Russian received 763,000 6.5mm Arisaka rifles during the war. while shorter than the M-1891 rifle I would call it easier to handle but its not a pocket pistol.

As for the MLs they did see service in home waters and the Med in WW I. I can't really say if any were sent to the Baltic in 1919-20. There is a book "Cowan's War" which is a history of the RN in the Baltic during this period. I read it a long time ago and don't know if the MLs were mentioned.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: August 16, 2017, 03:22:43 PM »
The first Sturm units in the German army were formed in 1915 I believe and they expanded the number of Sturm units as the war went on.

the RN used a number of motor launches in WW I small coastal craft to hunt U-boats in WW I. Look up Royal Navy Motor launches. I am not sure if any were used in the Baltic. They were larger and were better armed than the CMBs which did mount machine guns. The RN also used minesweepers in the Baltic where mines were a problem.

As for the MP 18 SMG being used in the Baltic. There were German troops in the Baltic in 1919 under General Count Rudiger Von Der Goltz. Look up Landwehr in the Russian Civil war online. The air units sent to support them in 1919 often had the latest in German aircraft the Junkers DI and CL I some it is possible a few MP 18s found there way there but they would have been rare. For one or two of them to get to the Northwest front chances are very remote. If you want a semi-auto rifle that was used in very small numbers in Russia in WW I and the civil war it's the Winchester model 1907. I think a few hundred were delivered and they were used in combat in small numbers.

 I hope this is of help.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: August 10, 2017, 09:51:43 PM »
Your right the Tambov revolt broke out in August 1920 but there were peasant revolts breaking out all the time in the Russian countryside do to Lenin's stupid and brutal forced requisition of food policy.

As for taking out Netrebin the hit team is too big I would say 2 or 3 people at the most will do. One member locates him and finds out where he lives and works. Then the next day another member walks up and shoots him in the back. Then everyone gets out of town ASAP but not by train the next trains out of town will be searched. Also it looks like there were witnesses to the shooting. So it looks like these people need to hop on some fast horses and get as far away from town as they can. One should also point out Russia was in chaos there were armed bands everywhere. As well as patrols of the Red Army and Cheka.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:03:24 PM »
I have some more plausible ways of taking out the victims:

Medvedev: Natalia spots him while staking out a tram section near Cheka headquarters she gets on the same tram as him at notes where he gets off. She comes back the next day armed with one of the men to the spot where he got off. When he gets off the tram she walks up behind him and shoots him twice in the back with a silenced pistol in a bag and then flees down an ally. Medvedev falls and everyone around thinks he just slipped and fell because he was drunk. It takes the Cheka a couple of days to find out what happened to him because some thieves steal his pistol, indetification , money boots ect right afterwards. the Cheka at first think it was a robbery gone bad since they have no witnesses at first.

Berzins gets a big envelope containing a box which according to a note contains a new army manual in Latvian and he is asked to read it to check for errors. he opens the box and a bomb goes off killing him.

Soshuvsky of Pravda receives a box containing what he thinks contains the diaries of a Red army commander/ revolutionary who had been killed in action he opens the box and a bomb goes off killing him.

Gurbanov state planning commission the hit team finds a way into his office and plants a german stick grenade in one of the drawers of his desk he returns from vacation opens the drawer which pulls the cord that detonates the grenade fatally wounding him

Rodzinsky is also taken out by a grenade in a desk

Lititsyn in Tambov there is a large scale peasant uprising going on in this area. No doubt the team will get help from the locals via the National center.

One better way to make Maksimov and Sminovich want to retire is not to write them about affairs or prostitutes but send them notes telling them that they better retire or we will send the Cheka information that they were informants for the Okhrana or Gendarmes. The Reds reguarded informants like this as the worst of the worst and were still hunting them down in the 1930s.

Italian Royal Families / Re: Daughters of King Vittorio Emmanuele III
« on: August 09, 2017, 03:32:38 PM »
I have more on Princess Mafada she makes into a Fuhrer conference 20 May 1943 Hitler is discussing the situation in Italy and starts ranting about his state visit there in 1938 .

Hitler: I was supposed to take the Countess Edda Ciano in to a dinner. Suddenly Philipp rushed in with his Mafalda, and the whole program was upset. Great excitement; I has to sit next to Mafalda. What do I care about Mafalda? As far as I'm concerned, she is the wife of a German Oberpraesident, period, that's that. On top of that, her intellectual qualities aren't such that would charm you-to say nothing of her looks."

This is from the books "Hitler Directs His War" Felix Gilbert and "Hitler and His Generals: Military Conferences 1942-1945" Helmet Heiber. The latter on was a spot where you can look inside. Note Hitler from late 1942 to 1945 had senographers take notes on what was said at his conferences. Most of these notes got burned at the end of WW II. Some where recovered and Heibers book has all that survived.
 I would also like to point out the Germans were furious with the Italians for their surrender to the Allies in September 1943. Which is why Mafalda got tossed in a KZ camp. In the late war and early post WW II years they blamed every defeat that occurred in North Africa on Italian treachery and incompetence.

The Goebbels comments on her can be found in the book "The Goebbels Diaries"

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: August 01, 2017, 04:09:33 PM »
On the Mahmoud hit Mossad could do this because they were going to flee the country right afterwards. They are critsized for using bad tradecraft. I also don't think they realized that the hotel and other areas had such a hi tech security system. This is also a major hit that doesn't happen very often. The White Russian agents are still going to operating behind Red lines after this and other hits. The Cheka will have both a description of some of the agents and their names from the hotel register and a handwriting sample ect.

I didn't realize hand held power drills were around back then. I think they would have been rare in Russia in 1919. Also electricity to run them may not have been available except in big cities like Moscow and even then many places that had it before the revolution would not have had it or had it on a regular basis during the civil war period.

You might also want to read the book "Young Stalin"  where Stalin comes across more like a Mafia boss than a revolutionary

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: July 25, 2017, 07:24:28 PM »
I have a lot to say on this:

Admiral Kolchak ordered there were to be no Pogroms against Jews. There were few Jews in Siberia. What the SRs in excile really denounced him for was he intended to bring back them Monarchy. Kolchak didn't even though more than a few White officers wanted to.

Your agents trade craft is really poor:

rule one you didn't in WW I or II talk on the telephone if you were an agent someone could be listening. I also don't think there were too many telephones working outside government building

also agents like these avoid staying in hotels or boarding houses too risky

no electric drills back then either

As for opening an antique furniture store in Bolshevik held Russia at this time many people where either short of food or starving. Even the formerly upper classes were hard up read the books "Former People" and "Memoirs of a Survivor". Everyone was selling anything they had for food.

If you are going to kill someone in a Hotel you don't get a room there. It investigators will certainly check the hotel register first thing. You also don't build bombs with all your friends around. It's too Hazardess. The bomb is too complex even for WW II. In real life it would have been smarter to plant the bomb in the bed. Then get out of town before the target comes home and sits on the bed and it goes off. Also no ball of fire would come out the window except in a Hollywood explosion. In real life when a bomb like this would have gone off it would of shattered the windows ect. It also looks like the men who set off the bomb were too close too such a large blast.

You mentioned a Tarantass a Siberian cart I believe. I think they would have used another type of horse drawn vehicle.

I would like to point out at this time 1918-19 Spies would be using spy techniques from earlier eras as in the books "Washington's Spies" and George Washingtons Secret Six" as in the TV show Turn Washington's Spies. They wrote coded messages in invisible ink and communicated by couriers.

Note the Cheka in 1918-19 did seek and get help from a number of members of the former tsarist police. Many of them were also experienced revolutionaries/terrorists/criminals. They know how to go after spies ect.

The Tudors / Re: Books/Movies on the Tudors and Plantagenets
« on: July 09, 2017, 04:01:33 PM »
There is a book "Queen Elizabeth's wardrobe unlock'd" Janet Arnold that is the book from what I understand on Queen Elizabeth I's clothes.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: July 09, 2017, 03:58:28 PM »

Operation Kronstadt about a British agent who ran a spy ring in Petrograd during the Russian civil war

Russia Under the Bolshevik Regime R Pipes has some pages that deal with the "National Center" this was a White Underground organization that operated in Moscow and Petrograd during the Civil War no doubt they would have helped a group like the one you are writing about but probably would have been worried that these assassinations would disrupt there operations.

griff If want to know about Baracca the book "It Aces of World War I and their aircraft" by Roberto Gentilli Antonio Iozza and Paolo Varriale has a chapter on him. It includes his combat report on his last victory and a photograph of the victim on the ground. This is a excellent book on this subject written by 3 aviation historians who know their subject. King VE3 and other royals make appearances.

Movies" And Quite Flows the Don" the 1930 silent no English subtitles and the 1957 6 hour mini series with English subtitles are both on youtube.They are based on the novel of the same name. If you like epics this is for you.

Italian Royal Families / Re: Books on Italian Royals
« on: June 19, 2017, 03:20:17 PM »
Italian Aces of World War I and their aircraft" by Roberto Gentili, Antonio Iozzi and Paolo Varriale is the book on Italian aces of WW I. King VE3 and other royals make occational apprences.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: June 12, 2017, 09:26:34 AM »
It should be pointed out the WW I /RCW period was totally different than the 1970s and later. Mossad had almost unlimited budget for their operations and getting money to them was no problem. In the RCW spy rings in Red territory had a number of major problems that Mossad did not have to put up with at a later date. One was just trying to get enough money to them in order to operate. Another was trying to get information back to their own side. Add to this the Cheka was on the lookout for spies and if they caught one or a caught a suspected spy they were going to torture the hell out of him or her. It should also be pointed out spies behind Red lines had to worry about members of their groups defecting or turning into Cheka informants. Finally for Mossad agents to get back to friendly territory wasn't too much of a problem. For spies in Red territory if things went wrong getting back to friendly territory was difficult if not impossible.

Yes Von Seekt was a very interesting figure.

on the great war forum Italy section and the First world war section there is a new posting of WW I photos taken by a soldier of the KUK 43 Infantry regiment/ 17th Infantry division on the Italian front during WW I. It includes a picture of Karl and what looks like one of Zita. A few of the other photos are graphic. the posting is

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: June 05, 2017, 10:01:12 PM »
More comments from a history and firearms guy:

In away the groups is too big 16 people it should be no more than 5 at the most or subdivided into 3 smaller groups in case someone is caught and tortured or defects they won't know too much.

Making a silencer/suppressor is not too much of a problem neither is making a bomb. The info is both online and in books but I don't advise you to make either because it is illegal.

On taking out Kabanov in a apartment the plan is too complex and involves too many people and they have him under survilence for too long. A better way to get him than a bomb in a lamp. It a old Viet Cong trick they used to put a hand grenade in a desk drawer of a South Vietnamese Government official so when he opens the drawer it pulls the pin of the grenade that goes off killing him.

After Lenin was wounded in a assassination attempt the Reds killed and jailed thousands. If they suspected the Whites were hunting down and killing their people they would be doing the same.

You have one of the men chewing gum I don't think they had chewing gum in Russia at the time.

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