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10 June 1918 was one of disaster for the KUK marine the dreadnought battleship Szent Istvan was torpedoed and sunk by an Italian motor torpedo boat MAS 15. There is a famous film clip of the ship capsizing and sinking on youtube

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: June 09, 2018, 05:16:11 PM »
One way the team could have identified Yurosky is by his accent. It varied depending on where you are from in Russia. Yurosky would have spoken Russian with a Siberian accent like Rasputin. This makes you stand out in St Petersburg/Petrograd. I understand Lenin according to one account I read sounded like a drawing room fop. Stalin spoke Russian with a heavy Georgian accent. His voice was also squeaky and one source I have read said he sounded almost comical.

Mossad also made a mistake and killed the wrong man in one of their hits.

If the reds found out the Whites were trying to kill their leaders they would have had hundreds of hostages shot and would have jailed thousands more people. This is one of the reasons the Whites would not have done any sort of assassination program. They also thought until November 1919 they were going to win the Russian Civil war. The Whites were also not into assassinations. George Hill in  "Go Spy The Land " points this out.

Yes TimM
The Soviets went to some lengths to keep guns out of the hands of their people

The Cheka would sometimes surround a city block and search it

The Cheka and Red army would take hostages from a village and if the villagers did not turn in their quota of firearms the hostages would be shot.

In WW II/GPW I understand in any areas captured by the Red Army orders were given that all firearms, ect were to be turned in or people found with them would be shot

In spite of all these "Common sense gun safety measures" I have read that in the mid 1970s that there were well over 10 million illegal firearms in the USSR and there was a big black market trade in illegal firearms and ammo.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: May 16, 2018, 03:47:49 PM »
Yes I believe they were. This is from a bio of Stalin by Montefiore.

Other comments:
It looks like yuryev is having problems. not surprising based on what he has been through.

The CV on a French care is I believe for tax purposes.

From "Go Spy The land" G Hill

In Bolshevik Russia the have for each block of homes a Dvornik or Yard porter. No one stays in a house with out him being informed and getting the pass ports of lodgers to take to the local commissartiat for registration

In buildings their were the housing committees who spy on the building and issue ration cards.

I believe Paul Dukes in his books mentions the same problems.

I would say during this period 1919 the system may not have been as efficient as in later Communist times. So I don't think the Whites would have been able to operate that many agents in Moscow.

As for running people off from the car where they planted the bomb. I don't think they would do it. It's just too risky. They might have one man watch the car from a distance and walk off when the bomb went off. However he does run the risk of being spotted by some one who gives his description to the Cheka.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: May 15, 2018, 06:33:52 PM »
Interesting, imaginative and mostly plausible. Some one this high up on the Bolshevik leadership would have had a driver/mechanic to drive him around and keep the car running. He would also have bodyguards and would go around armed. I think Bolshevik/Communist high ups until 1935 could go around openly armed. Keeping an early automobile running pre WW II you almost had to be a driver and a mechanic.

The Hohenzollern / Re: Books on the Hohenzollerns
« on: May 09, 2018, 03:58:57 PM »
In the @KaisersBattle mentioned above on a 13 April posting there is a film Bilder Aus Der groben Schalacht 2 Teil which is on youtube on the Kaiserheer in what looks like Operation Michael. Note one artillery piece being towed by cattle because the German army was short of horses they used cattle or oxen to sometimes tow their artillery. Also note the torn up landscape

The Russian Revolution / Re: Why is Lenin still praised?
« on: May 09, 2018, 03:47:15 PM »
Lenin was the man who seized power and set up the worlds first Communist state. He also started the Russian Civil War death toll 9-13 million with about 2 million people fleeing the country. It should be pointed out that in 1917-18 Lenin was often opposed by most or in some cases all of the other Bolshevik leaders in some of his decisions. There is a book "The Collected What If?" one chapter is No Finland Station which deals with what might have happened if Lenin had not made it back to Russia.  We would have had no Communisim, no Stalin and his mass murders, no WW II, No cold war ect.
 I do agree that some people give Lenin a free pass but if He had lived longer he would have racked up a body count about the same as Stalin's. I believe it was Trotsky who was the first Bolshevik official to recommend the use of concentration camps in 1918. This is from the book "The Russian Revolution " R Pipes
 Sometimes one wonders how Lenin pulled it off. I can say he was really lucky to have had some really inept enemies and allies.

John Bott is doing the Kaiserschalacht-twitter
@CrownPrinceRupp on the German view of the 1918 offensives
@Kaiser's Battle

I put this on Holltzoren (sic) section and decided to put it here as well

Recently I read the book "Russia's sisters of Mercy in the Great war" by Laurie Stoft I would say it is the book on Russia's nurses in WW I has an account of a nurse that worked on a hospital train. Also Lenin's sister Maria was a nurse in WW I among other stuff.

The Hohenzollern / Re: Books on the Hohenzollerns
« on: March 22, 2018, 10:00:38 PM »
21 march 2018 is the centennial of the beginning of the Kaiserschalacht (Emperor's battle AKA Operation Michael. The first of the great 1918 German offensives that was supposed to win the war for Germany.

On the Great war forum Western front section there is a post:


@CrownPrince Rupp

if you want to follow the events of these offensive the last twitter @CrownPrinceRupp is by the author of the Book "Haig's Enemy"  a bio of the Bavarian Crown Prince who was one of the leading German Generals on the Western front

Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich / Re: Aleksei Photos III
« on: March 21, 2018, 04:41:41 PM »
more Alexei pics: has the book "With the Russian Armies 1914-1917" Alfred Knox Volume 2 page 401 is a picture Alexei, his father and others. I think it was taken in the October-November 1915 period not he Spring of 1916 General Ivanov who is in the picture was fired in march 1916.

The US Navy History and heritage command has a few pictures of Nicholas and Alexei go to the photo section and type in Tsar Nicholas II and:
NH100134 12 may 1916 Nicholas II and Alexei visiting the battleship Imperatritsa Maria at Sevastopol

NH100162 14 may 1916 Nicholas II and Alexei visiting the seaplane base at Kruge Bay Sevastopol OTMA were there as well

Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich / Re: Aleksei Photos III
« on: March 14, 2018, 04:08:00 PM »
reply 27 and 28 photos look like the may 1916 Sevastopol visit

reply 444 picture with the seaplane it look like the may 1916 Sevastopol visit where the whole IF except Alexandra visited a seaplane base. If I could get  a better view of the seaplane I might be able to ID it

replys 160 and 201 In reading the book "Alexei the Last Imperial Heir" I believe it mentions a photo taken where Alexei lounges around like one of the guards with a fake cigarette in his mouth

 Any pictures with airplanes or ships in them post them and I might be able to ID them

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: March 14, 2018, 03:52:50 PM »
Looks good!

Back to the story:
The Moscow morgue a body is laying on a table covered by a sheet in walks a man in a medical white coat followed by a tall woman wearing black leather coat over a sharply tailored officers uniform followed by a man in a suit wearing glasses. The man in the white coat pulls the sheet of the top half of the body.
Woman: It is comrade Medvedev
Man in suit: we found his body in an ally he had been striped naked and we did not know who he was. We have lots of murders these days.
Man in white coat turns body on side
Man in suit: He has been shot in the back twice. We have recovered the bullets and they look like 3 line bullets possibly from a Browning.
Woman: The Cheka is now in charge of this investigation. Do you have any witnesses?
Man in suit: No but we still looking for some.
Woman: All witnesses any other evidence are to be handed over to me as soon as possible.
Man in suit; Yes comrade
Woman: Now we at the cheka need to figure out how many hostages we need to shoot in reprisal.

(scene fades)

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: March 13, 2018, 06:42:57 PM »
Monday evening near a tram stop in Moscow Natalia is waiting on one side of a street leading from it while Mikhail is on the other side. Then a man in a Black leather coat with a service cap with a red star on it gets off a tram car that just pulled up and starts walking down the sidewalk towards Natalia It's Medvedev. As he passes her she starts to follow him. She sticks her hand into a Russian army bread bag closes the distance between them. At close range she fires two shots into his back from a Browning pistol fitted with a improvised surpressor.  Medvedev staggers walks over to a lamppost to steady himself slips and falls on his back. Natalia continues to walk on when she gets to the next corner she turns and starts walking at a faster pace. meanwhile, a few people start to gather around Medvedev wondering what's wrong with him not hearing any shots. Someone notices some blood and they all flee. Natalia continues to walk at a fast pace down the sidewalk takes another turn and keeps walking she periodically makes a quick look behind her and keeps walking after walking about half a verst she stops at a street corner and waits a few minutes later Mikhail shows up and they both walk back to the refuge camp where they celebrate with by drinking a cup of tea and cooking and eating for them a fairly nice meal.
 Meanwhile after it got dark two men dragged Medvedevs body into a back ally and striped it.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: March 13, 2018, 06:17:08 PM »
back to our story:
Bylinkin continues to wait on the street corner periodically looking at his old pocket watch. After awhile he walks over to Nikifor
Bylinkin: It looks like no one else is coming lets see if we can get some else to eat and head home.
They head towards the Black market, passing a number of ragged thin looking people heading away with bags of food, they also pass store after boarded up store.
 later at their safe house they are siting around eating in a small backroom empty except their belongings and some blankets.
Bylinkin: Feliks has a job repairing train engines what do you have that he can use to really fix them?
Nikifor: I have 3 lumps of coal that have bombs in them.
Bylinkin: Good!
Nikifor: I also have some long delay fuses to attach to the explosives that he can set in a ammo train causing it to blow up a few days alter. he knows about putting dirt in gearboxes and how to clog up a lubricating line. I have been doing some thinking.
Bylinkin : What about?
Nikifor: When or If Galina and Zakhar get here why don't we send them on to Tambor and get Lisitsyn and then they can head to Denikin's lines
Bylinkin: I was thinking the same thing. I am also thinking of leaving Feliks and Angelika behind as agents. I know it is risky but their jobs could provide us with all sorts of information.
Nikifor: Sounds good!
Bylinkin: I am also planning on sending Mikhail and Natalia back to Siberia with information for the Admiral after we have taken care of a few of these scoundrels. We will then head for Astrakhan and take care of Kabanov then head for Denikin.
Nikifor; good! We need to kill these bastards and be gone. If we stay here to long we may get picked up by the Cheka or run out of money and starve.
Bylikin: true! I find it hard to believe things are so bad in Moscow compared to when I last saw the place early last year.
Nikifor: I agree! The sooner our armies get here and drive out these scum the better.

Having Fun! / Re: Operation Rod of Iron: AU fic
« on: March 13, 2018, 05:18:26 PM »
I would say it would be possible for someone to sneak into a government building and make a call on a telephone when someone wasn't watching or walk in and ask to use the telephone for official business.

Moscow from 1917 to 1920 the population dropped by one half. In Petrograd the population dropped by 2/3s
Food was hard to find people were starving the only way to get enough extra food was on the black market brought in by bagmen who the Cheka spent a great deal of time hunting down and arresting. Bolshevik economic policies cause much of these problems.
People left in Moscow were often starving.
Inflation was terrible
Crime was rampant
Most men walked around Moscow wearing parts of army uniforms. Besides what was left over from the old Russian army many soldiers in the red army often soldier their uniforms and equipment for food.
Most stores except for a few that sold government supplied or issued items were closed. The black market was booming.
The Bolshevik government many departments just didn't work that well
you will here more on this

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