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The Windsors / Re: Princess Beatrice of York
« on: May 13, 2007, 09:59:25 AM »
I think it was said by a spokesman of the Duke of York that she has a facebook page, not myspace page.
If it is her myspace page, why wouldn't she set it on private?
It can't be genuine - it has links to the Queen's supposed myspace page. And there is no way HM would have one. Even dead royals like Queen Victoria have myspace pages set up in their names. ::)

The Windsors / Re: Prince William and Prince Harry in the Military
« on: May 13, 2007, 08:27:43 AM »
Disgraced former Royal butler boasts he's still in touch with Wills and Harry

WHAT THE BUTLER POURS: Burrell and two of his wines

MoD's latest propaganda weapon ... Harry, the war movie

Defence chiefs are planning to let a camera crew follow Prince Harry during his tour of duty in Iraq.

The Ministry of Defence crew will film him while on operations, with footage being released to television channels and on the internet.

Harry's commanders hope the film, being dubbed Desert Prince, will inflict a propaganda defeat upon insurgent groups which have been using videos of hostages and wreckages of British aircraft to publicise their causes.

ON FILM: An MoD crew will follow the Prince in Iraq

The MoD will scrutinise its coverage for any information which could be used by insurgents to locate Prince Harry - one group has already threatened to kidnap him and cut off his ears.

News of the film follows the delay of Prince Harry's deployment to Iraq. The Prince, 22, was held back from the recent handover between units as it was feared his arrival would be too disruptive.

Most members of his Household Cavalry Regiment are already in Basra on a six-month tour of duty.

The Prince is now expected to be given a role in Iraq which would rarely involve him leaving the confines of British bases.

He is no longer going to be utilised as a reconnaissance troop commander - the job he trained for - as this is now considered too dangerous.

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "We need to consider how we are going to handle the huge interest in Prince Harry. Operational security remains of paramount importance."

The former Conservative Homeland Security spokesman, Patrick Mercer, said: "They will have to be very careful not to give away Prince Harry's general location. If this goes wrong, it will come back to haunt them.

"That said, it's a bold move and a very positive piece of propaganda."

The Windsors / Re: Queen Elizabeth II Pt 2
« on: May 13, 2007, 07:53:37 AM »
Queen and Brown join forces to save Union
By JONATHAN OLIVER - More by this author Last updated at 21:34pm on 12th May 2007

The Queen is to join forces with Gordon Brown to prevent the break-up of the Union between Scotland and England

The Queen is to join forces with Gordon Brown to prevent the break-up of the Union between Scotland and England.

Mr Brown, who shares the Queen's grave fears about independence for Scotland, will travel to Balmoral, her Highland residence, shortly after he is confirmed as Prime Minister.

A Palace source said: "In her five decades on the throne, the Queen has been careful to stay above party politics. But if there is one thing she cares passionately about, it is the Union."

The Royal summit is expected to take place in early September. Mr Brown will stay overnight at Balmoral and is likely to be accompanied by wife Sarah and sons John, three, and baby Fraser.

The emergence of the Nationalists, led by Alex Salmond, as the largest party in the Edinburgh Parliament raises the prospect of a referendum on independence, causing a major political headache for Scot Mr Brown at the start of his premiership.

Mr Salmond has insisted that there would be a role for the British Royals in an independent Scotland. But that is unlikely to calm the Queen's private concerns.

In public the Queen has been careful to avoid straying into political controversy. But she has in the past offered a glimpse of her passion about maintaining the Union.

In her Silver Jubilee address in 1977, made at the height of a previous public debate on Scottish independence, she remarked:

"I cannot forget that I was crowned Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."

Sources close to Mr Brown say he is keen to build a close relationship with the Royal Family and eager to restore the traditional fortnightly audience with the Queen at Buckingham Palace.

Mr Blair began his premiership briefing the Queen with scrupulous regularity, but the meetings became increasingly irregular as time went on.

By contrast, Mr Brown has been careful to maintain the tradition of informing the Sovereign about his annual Budget before telling the Cabinet and Parliament.

Indeed, in some years the Queen found out about the Chancellor's tax proposals before the Prime Minister.

The Chancellor has spoken repeatedly of his "Britishness" and is sensitive about claims that the English will refuse to tolerate being governed by a politician from north of the border.

In an interview with Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Brown denied that being a Scot was a "problem".

He said: "I am very proud of my Scottishness. I am proud also that I am a citizen of Britain."

The Windsors / Re: Zara & Peter Phillips
« on: May 13, 2007, 07:47:13 AM »

Zara's dad makes her put wedding plans on hold
Zara told her closest friends that, after getting secretly engaged to Mike at Christmas, they would make an official announcement in August. But now the plan has been scrapped

A gold ring? Get your gold medal first, Dad tells Zara

After Prince William and Kate Middleton split, all eyes were on Zara Phillips to announce her engagement to rugby player boyfriend Mike Tindall.

But I am sorry to report that it won't be happening this summer.

Zara, 25, had told her closest friends that, after getting secretly engaged at Christmas, the couple would make an official announcement in August. But now friends say the plan has been scrapped.

Engagement on hold: MIke and Zara

"After extensive talks with her father, Captain Mark Phillips, Zara has decided to concentrate on training for the Beijing Olympics next year," says a close friend.

"She is focusing all her efforts on bringing home the gold medal. As far as her father is concerned, her career is the most important thing.

"Zara and her dad have a turbulent relationship, but the one thing she always respects is her father's advice when it comes to her career."

Sources close to the Phillipses say it is not just Zara's equestrian commitments that are concerning her father.

"While Anne is really fond of Mike, Zara's father has his reservations," reports a friend.

"He's not convinced it's a perfect match and he has told Zara to hold off making anything official and concentrate instead on her sport.

"There is a degree of uncertainty on Mark's behalf about Mike. He finds his attitude a little too laid-back and a couple of years ago demanded that Zara rethink her choice of suitor."

Princess Anne, however, is said to adore Tindall, 28, who is due to play in the Rugby World Cup in September.

"Mike has said Zara is the love of his life and has hinted strongly that he wants to marry her after the Olympics.

"He says they already feel like a married couple and rushing it through just for the piece of paper doesn't seem worth it. They want it to be right.

"They have already started planning the wedding and Zara is keen to get plans under way as soon as her Olympic bid is over."

Watch this space.

The Windsors / Re: Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York
« on: May 13, 2007, 07:38:57 AM »
Fergie enjoys wild night out
by KATIE NICOLLS - More by this author Last updated at 21:43pm on 12th May 2007

Eugenie's party-loving mother, meanwhile, is still refusing to act her age.

The 47-year-old Duchess of York was spotted making a discreet entrance into New York's hottest new nightclub The Box, where she enjoyed a night with a difference.

A hit with actor Leonardo DiCaprio, the club is a risque burlesque-themed bar with live acts featuring strippers and transvestites.

The 47-year-old Duchess of York was spotted making a discreet entrance into New York's hottest new nightclub The Box

"The Duchess seemed quite enthralled and not at all shocked," says a fellow guest.

"She seemed to find one of the acts in which a male stripper undresses to reveal he is, in fact, a woman quite amusing. It was quite a surprise to see her in such a seedy place."

A word of advice to Beatrice and Eugenie - just steer clear!

Fergie: I was brought up to believe I was a 'fat monster'

and there are other articles linked to on the page

The Windsors / Re: Princess Beatrice of York
« on: May 13, 2007, 07:30:35 AM »
Princess Eugenie doesn't seem to have her own thread, so I'll post this here.

The evening Eugenie went a little Cuckoo
When the girls visited London's trendy Cuckoo Club, Eugenie, who had just celebrated her birthday, was knocking back champagne like a true pro

While everyone had Princess Beatrice down as the upcoming Royal wild child after she was photographed leaving Boujis in the early hours recently, it appears her younger sister Eugenie, 17, is also staking a claim to the title.

According to my impeccable sources, 18-year-old Beatrice, who is head over heels in love with her boyfriend Dave Clark, is actually the sensible one, while Eugenie appears to have inherited her mother's love of a good party.

Princess Eugenie, 17, appears to have inherited her mother's love of a good party

When the girls visited London's trendy Cuckoo Club, Eugenie, left, who had just celebrated her birthday, was knocking back flutes of champagne like a true pro, even though she is not legally allowed to drink.

"Eugenie was continuing her birthday celebrations with Beatrice and Dave at Cuckoo and they were really having a good night," says a friend.

"Eugenie was drinking alcohol and seemed really rather tipsy at one point in the evening.

"Beatrice had to cover for her when they left the club and tried to walk in front of her in a big coat so she wasn't seen.

"Eugenie just tried to hide her face behind her hand. She knew her eyes would be a giveaway that she was more than a little merry."

Let's hope Eugenie keeps focusing on her studies, for the time being at least.

Her Royal Blogness Princess Eugenie

Party Time: Princess Eugenie out on Friday for her 17th birthday

It's not real, I don't think, but here is the link to Eugenie's supposed myspace page:

Princess Eugenie's screen kisses for Pixie

E-pen pals: Princess Eugenie and Pixie Geldof

After she got over her extreme anger about being left in such a vulnerable position I suppose.  :o

I would like to know: where is Michael Fagan now? What happened to him?

I do like that jellybean portrait! But would it decay?

Thanks! It is fascinating but disturbing. If he had turned violent he could have murdered her, and who was there to stop him?, no security, nothing! Finally a footman came along with the corgis! It's just bizarre there was not better security....and a better response.

I just looked it up on wikipedia - there is an article -

It was in 1982, Michael Fagin scaled the walls of Buckingham Palace and sat on her bed for 10 minutes. She called for a footman to bring matches for Fagins cigarette and that was that. I think he had previously been up in court for stealing half a bottle of wine from there in June. :o

This is sort of a reply to the Fagan discussion. Fagan was apparently a recently released felon from the psychiatric ward. The night he went to Buckingham Palace, he was completely drunk hoping to tell the queen about his miserable life. He climbed in an open window into a room filled with some of George V's stamps and then walked into the throne room where he touched the drapes and stated that they "crumbled in his hands." He says he pushed a hidden button in the paneling that opened to a door leading to the queen's apartments; however, this is thought to be a figment of his intoxication.

 Finding an ashtray, he smashed it intending to cut his wrists in front of the queen. Once in her room, he pulled open the curtains and at this point the queen awoke. She firmly told him "What are you doing here? Get out! Get out! Fagan told her "I am not here to harm you I think you are a really nice woman; I love you, I love you." He sat on her bed (which she immediately got out of and put on her dressing gown) and spilled his heart to her. She listened to him and while he talked she tried to ring for the police. The rest is somewhat unclear. This was not the first time he attempted to speak to the queen. :o

From Carolly Erickson's Lillibet (a great book!)

Wow SHOCKING :o I find inside descriptions of the Queen's private rooms/actions like this to be fascinating in the extreme.
It is amazing how she apparently kept so calm, and it is simply astonishing it was so easy for him to get in.

Is there any more descriptions by Fagan about what he saw and did and what happened?

The Habsburgs / Re: Inter-Marriage and In-Breeding
« on: May 12, 2007, 03:35:51 PM »
Yes you are too confusing in your example! Perhaps a real life example would be easier to follow. Okay the Ernestine Dukes are the ones with Saxe at the front ;)

The Tudors / Re: Elizabeth (with Blanchett) Part II--The Golden Age
« on: May 12, 2007, 03:33:03 PM »
I haven't seen Glenda Jackson's portrayal so I can't judge it.

I haven't seen it for a couple of years, but to me the script of Elizabeth was not horrible at all, but I am not an all-knowing about the Tudors expert. I think I was transfixed by Blanchett's performance, in any case.

The Tudors / Re: Elizabeth (with Blanchett) Part II--The Golden Age
« on: May 12, 2007, 03:19:51 PM » Here is the imdb page for it.

It is called The Golden Age.

I loved the first one Elizabeth! I think Cate Blanchett is the best ever at portraying Elizabeth, well the best I've seen.

The Tudors / Re: Elizabeth (with Blanchett) Part II--The Golden Age
« on: May 12, 2007, 03:13:32 PM »
Oh yes it's coming out soon.

The Habsburgs / Re: Inter-Marriage and In-Breeding
« on: May 12, 2007, 01:45:46 PM »
do you all think that that dicease had gone out of the House of Windsor already ?  ???

After Queen Victoria, hemophilia was gone from the main line of the British Royal Family, because Edward VII was not a sufferer. No hemophilia carriers married into the main line, so they have been completely clear since!

I can't think of any modern day royals who have hemophilia (males) or are carriers (females) that have it from the original descent from QV, or have it at all. The hemophilia lines from Leopold and the carrier daughters died off.

Well since George VI was born!! That birth "lifted the curse"

No, the "curse" never affected the main line of the British Royal Family from Edward VII onwards, it was gone long out of the ruling family long before George VI.

Although his nephew got "the other dieses"...Prince William of Gloucester had Porphyria (direct link from George II).

Is that really proven, or is it just a suggestion? It was a direct link from George III, not George II I think. It seems strange that it could pass from George III, to his great great great great grandson Prince William of Gloucester. ??? And skipped nearly everyone else.

It seems like the ruling line is clear...except for a little alcoholism.

Really? Who in the ruling line has alcoholism?  ??? ???

Victoria's parents were 4th cousins (the same degree of relatedness as Edward VII and Alexandra), as this quick chart shows

Well thanks for clearing that up! 4th cousins isn't a close relationship at all. It's not inbreeding. I wouldn't hesitate to marry my 4th cousin for a second if I wanted to! They only had one set of great great great grandparents in common!

due to the changing names of the Ernestine Dukes. 

What does that mean? Why are they called Ernestine Dukes, they did not all have the name Ernest.  ???

The Windsors / Re: Love Lives of William and Harry
« on: May 12, 2007, 01:19:23 PM »
Some good points Scarlett!

Romantic trysts and friendly fun for royal set at Badminton

Harry and Chelsy were completely wrapped up in each other, exchanging tender looks and sharing laughs at the horse trials

Zara was also enjoying the romantic attentions of her long-term boyfriend Mike

Prince William's ex attended the event on Friday, hanging out with a group of close pals, including a mystery male companion who stayed by her side all day

Her erstwhile beau cut a lonelier figure as he concentrated more on the sporting action than socialising

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