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Books about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: Splendor In Exile
« on: June 08, 2005, 10:02:44 PM »
I have this book. It is titled Splendor In Exile, The Ex-Majesties of Europe. It was written by Charles Fenyvesi and published in 1979. ISBN#0-915220-55-5.
I found my copy at a library book sale and I do not know if it is still available. I've never seen it. You might check
It is a fairly good book, with short narratives about several deposed and would-be kings.
The stories contain interesting contemporary information about the royal families.
Former/would-be kings interviewed for this book include: Otto von Habsburg, Louis Ferdinand Hohenzollern, Umberto of Savoy, Dom Duarte Joao, Henri Bourbon-Orleans, Louis-Napoleon, Simeon of Bulgaria, Constantine of
Greece, Michael of Roumania, Alexander of Yugoslavia, King Leka, and several Romanovs.

Prince Christopher Ivanovich

Who were Ileana's children and how did her first husband, Archduke Anton, fit into the Habsburg family?

The Greek Royal Family / Re: Princess Katherine, Lady Brandram
« on: June 04, 2005, 04:38:21 PM »
Of course in some families, all the children look just alike and in other families, all the children can have a different look. My own brother and I look nothing alike and most people would not think us brothers- he with dark skin, dark, straight hair, blue eyes and me with light, freckled skin, blonde curly hair and green eyes. I take after my mom's side and he takes after our dad's.  He has twin daughters, one tall and skinny with light freckled skin, red hair, green eyes, and the other shorter, olive skinned, brown hair and brown eyes. It always amazes people that they are twins.

The Imperial Family / Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« on: June 03, 2005, 09:00:16 PM »
Does anyone know if the Grand Duchess Leonida, wife of Grand Duke Vladimir (son of Kyril and Ducky), is still living? If not, where is she buried? Also, I know that her first husband, an American by the name of Mr. Kirby, died in a concentration camp during WWII. What were the circumstances surrounding this? Did she have children by her first marriage and if so, what became of them?

The Greek Royal Family / Re: Princess Katherine, Lady Brandram
« on: June 03, 2005, 07:19:26 PM »
I've always thought Alexander looked MUCH different than the rest of the family. He had a darker look, almost like a true Greek.  Anyone have pictures to post?

Mediatized Noble Families / Re: Hohenlohe-Langenburg
« on: June 01, 2005, 09:59:15 PM »
I believe Gottfried of Hohenlohe-Langenberg was at one time engaged to Gloria Vanderbilt's widowed mother, Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt.  Couldn't resist this bit of trivia.

Mediatized Noble Families / Re: Hohenlohe-Langenburg
« on: June 01, 2005, 09:55:26 PM »
This family is heavily entangled in QV's descendents.
Queen Victoria's older half-sister, Princess Feodora of Leiningen, married Prince Ernest of Hohenlohe-Langenberg. They had several children, including Karl who made an unequal marriage, Elise (who died at 20 or 21), Hermann, Victor, Adelaide, Feodore, maybe others, I'm not sure. Some or maybe all of these children basically grew up at their aunt's English Court, I think Victor married an English Lady.
Prince Hermann of Hohenlohe-Langenberg married Leopoldine of Baden and they had at least one son, another Ernest (he would have been QV's grand nephew), who married QV's granddaughter, Alexandra of Edinburgh/Coburg, the third daughter of Alfred and Marie Alexandrovna and sister to the famous princess duo Missy and Ducky. Ernest and "Sandra" had a happy marriage, from what I've read, and Prince Ernest even served as regent after the Duke of Coburg's death until his nephew Charles Edward became of age.  They lived at the family castle, Schloss Langenberg. Ernest and Sandra had 5 children: Gottfried (who married Prince Philip's sister Margarita), Alfred (died as an infant), Marie Melita (married Duke Friedrich of Schleswig-Holstein), and Alexandra and Irma, neither of whom married.

I had always wondered about this family as well, and I found what I did by piecing together bits of info. from several different sources until I got a full picture.

The Greek Royal Family / Re: Princess Katherine, Lady Brandram
« on: June 01, 2005, 08:54:19 PM »
I have heard of this also. Katherine was born much later than her older brothers and sisters (George II-Helen-Alexander-Irene-Paul). Is their any evidence of this, or of whom her father may have been?

The Stuarts of Scotland / Re: Illegitimate Children of James V
« on: June 01, 2005, 08:45:58 PM »
Umigon, I agree with you. Look up the word "hindrance".  However, did not one of Mary's half-sisters travel with her to the court of France? Or was it an aunt, her father's illegitimate sister?

The Stuarts of Scotland / Re: Illegitimate Children of James V
« on: May 31, 2005, 10:01:58 PM »
I believe they were both a source of hindrance and help to Mary during her reign.

The Stuarts of Scotland / Stuart Bastards
« on: May 30, 2005, 08:19:23 PM »
Can anyone provide me with an accurate list of the illegitimate children of James V (the father of Mary Queen of Scots).
I know he had several, by various mothers, but I've never seen a complete list, just certain ones mentioned  in different books.
I am most interested in his illegitimate daughters and who they married.

The Greek Royal Family / Re: Princess Katherine, Lady Brandram
« on: May 29, 2005, 04:51:28 PM »
Could someone discuss the life of Princess Katherine of Greece, youngest child of King Constantine and Queen Sophie. How did she meet Mr. Brandram and what was life like for her in England after she decided to become known as Lady Katherine. Did she grow up in England? I read somewhere that Queen Sophie had wanted all of her daughters to marry Englishmen.

The Greek Royal Family / Re: Prince Andrew of Greece and his family
« on: May 29, 2005, 04:45:11 PM »
According to their mother's biography, the girls were all reaching marriagable age just as Princess Alice lost her grip and had to be institutionalized. I don't think she attended any of the weddings. I think the girls felt bewildered and somewhat confused at this sudden loss. Their grandmother, Victoria Milford Haven and their aunt Princess Louise had to attend to the trousseaus and other details. Their family having been broken up, with no mother and little money, I think Prince Andrew was eager to get his girls married off, and turned to relations in Germany to help him. I believe Sophie, the youngest, was the first to marry, at 15 or 16 years of age. Cecile's marriage was next, and Victoria Milford Haven may have played a role here, as Cecile's bridegroom was Victoria's nephew, Don of Hesse, making them first cousins once removed. I believe all the girls married within the span of a year.

Thanks, Grandduchessella for the information and pictures. Cecilie was certainly pretty as a youngster. I wonder why she waited so long to marry (the war, maybe?) and what her life was like in America.

I am interested in royals who "gave it all up" to marry commoners.

Does anyone know anything about Princess Cecilie of Prussia, youngest daughter of the Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Germany? I believe she was born in 1917 and married an American soldier by the name of Mr. Harris during WWII.

They had one daughter, Kyra, and Princess Cecilie died fairly young. I know at one time she lived in Amarillo, TX.
I think Kyra Harris is married and has a son, I've seen their names on the list of succession to the British throne.

Does anyone know anything about her life with Mr. Harris, did she live in USA, when and how did she die and where is she buried? What did her family think of her common marriage to an American and why did she choose that course?

Thank you
Prince Christopher Ivanovich

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