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The Windsors / Re: Queen Elizabeth II Pt 2
« on: April 29, 2006, 09:26:08 PM »

No haughtiiness here, either.  Very obvious from where the Duke of York gets his easy smile.

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« on: April 29, 2006, 04:17:52 PM »

Thank you, Eddieboy and RN...and yes, I made it to work yesterday with a few minutes to spare!  ::)
Above, Alexandra, Mary, and guests wait patiently during a shooting party at Sandringham.

A photo of the King, and his mother, who's perhaps thinking of a royal command
to the threatening skies "don't you dare."

I imagine HM's coat is of brilliant yellow/gold silk.  I would love to have seen this pic in color.

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« on: April 29, 2006, 02:46:46 AM »

Three generations of Sovereigns.

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« on: April 28, 2006, 01:49:06 PM »

Thank you, royal netherlands...I may be late for work because I can't tear myself away!  ;D  Sorry my first picture on this thread wasn't sized properly.    Here's a few more newsreel shots...

Everyone's here for the cameras except Prince George, and of course Prince John.   Is that Toria next to Bertie?

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« on: April 28, 2006, 11:36:41 AM »

Thank you grandduchessella and Royal Netherlands...I love the pics and this hopefully never-ending thread!

Here's 3 views of HM's expressions from newsreel clips.  The stern glance, the reflective pause, and finally a gracious smile.  

The Queen mounts the steps to the platform of a ship launch, probably for the christening of her namesake liner in Scotland.  A bit self-conscious of the cameras, but she manages a shy smile before resuming the royal expression.

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary part 2
« on: April 26, 2006, 01:12:28 AM »
Please pardon my constant theme, but my interest in the House of Windsor is shared with the great Atlantic liners.   Here is a wall collage of photos and letters, honoring HM,  on the Queen Mary 2, located in the Queen's ballroom.

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary part 2
« on: April 10, 2006, 12:10:53 AM »

Bronze busts of the proud grandparents, The Queen's Ballroom, on the Queen Mary 2.

The Windsors / Re: Grace and Favour residences
« on: April 06, 2006, 09:58:09 AM »
I was stunned  :o by the wealth of information in your replies!   Thank you CHRISinUSA and grandduchessella!  :)

The Windsors / Grace and Favour residences
« on: April 05, 2006, 12:18:44 AM »
I was enjoying the Royal Interiors thread (newbie that I am, trying to catch up to the rest of you!) when a question came to mind.  I am curious about the Grace and Favour system, specifically for servants of the Crown, and other non-royals. I'm assuming the honor provides for rent, but anything else?  Utilities?   Also, is this system on the wane?  I toured several vacant G&F flats in Hampton Court last May, and was told by a guide that now after a tenant vacated an apartment, that these were no longer being occupied.   Is this specific only to Hampton Court?   Or to all such properties?

What a treat it was to visit Princess Margaret's apartment at Kensington last year.  It seemed that these rooms had only been on public display since 2004 or so.   There was a bit of remodelling being done at the time, and I'm wondering if anyone has visited her rooms since then and what has been done?   Thanks!  :)

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary part 2
« on: April 01, 2006, 09:11:42 AM »
Thank you, Michael II and Grandduchessella.  I will judge the Edward's book on QM accordingly.  The Pope Hennessey bio is another favorite of mine.  Also the two part dvd "The Windsors," where I first learned of Mary's intriguing little habit of asking for, and expecting to get, whatever collectible or piece of furniture someone else owned, that had caught her fancy.   Thanks again! :)

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary part 2
« on: March 31, 2006, 03:08:15 AM »
For those who know more about HM Queen Mary than I do (ie all of you!), I have a question.  I've been reading the book "Matriarch" by Anne Edwards.  In it, she tells of the coronation ceremony of George V and Mary in which May feels she was slighted by the Archbishop of Canterbury in his prayer (towards her) " the powerful and mild influence of her piety and virtue she may adorn the dignity which she hath obtained."   Evidently Mary took the meaning of this last word to be a slur against her, and her father's morganatic background.  I'm wondering, was this actually a jab at her by the Archibishop, or merely an unfortunate choice of word, given one so ceremoniously correct as Mary?  I'v always thought that everyone, including the Archbishop,  believed "May" the perfect candidate consort for George V.     Thanks.

The Windsors / Re: Princess Mary, the Princess Royal
« on: March 26, 2006, 02:00:02 PM »
Thank you all for steering me to this thread about Princess Mary.  I'm still a bit new to this site, and I appreciate your patience. :)

In his autobiography, "Captain of the Queens," Commodore Harry Grattridge tells of one of the most awkward cocktail parties he had ever given on the RMS Queen Mary. (no date given, most likely 1952-53)  Princess Mary and her brother, the Duke of Windsor, were returning to England on the news that HM Queen Mary was in poor health.  Page 262... "The Princess Royal, so quiet and serious that morning, did not respond to my efforts at conversation.  The Duke, too, seemed unusually lost in thought and made no attempt to mix into the party. I knew this was a troubled time for brother and sister, as the news from England suggested that Queen Mary was gravely ill, but as host I had to do my best.  We could not sit mute for three quarters of an hour.  I tried every topic I knew: the ship, the weather, music, the excitement of visiting New York.  All in vain.  The Princess smiled at me vaguely and courteously, seeming to dismiss each subject from her mind as I raised it."

"Good heavens, I thought, I cannot keep this up much longer.  Surely someone will say something?"

"A leaden silence fell.  The Duke stared absently through a porthole at the grey Atlantic. (other guests seemed to have run out of words too ) Suddenly, turning to the Duke, I blurted out desperately, 'Excuse me, sir - do you have a tip for the Grand National?"  That was the first time I ever saw the Duke smile.  I think he sensed my embarrassment and was anxious to make amends.  "No, I haven't," he chuckled, "and, what's more, if I had, I don't think I'd be inclined to share it."

"But what a change came over the Princess Royal then!  Her face lit up like a young girl's at her first ball.  With immense animation she began to discuss with me not only the Grand National but handicaps and selling plates of which I had never even heard.  It seemed that she was passionately, wholeheartedly, and exclusively interested in horses.  I will swear that before she left she had mentioned almost every winner of the Derby back to 1780, when the race began."

I love these kind of anecdotes!   I just wish I could find more of them about her.

I believe it was Chips Channon, MP and London socialite, who wrote of Princess Mary in his famous diary "...has an easy sense-of-humor, but an otherwise colorless personality."   I suspect he got the first part right, but may have overlooked the veneer one might expect to be found on a royal princess.   I'm sure there was much more to her than what Chips could judge from his fleeting distance.  

The Windsors / Re: Queen Alexandra (1844-1925)
« on: March 26, 2006, 10:36:54 AM »
Royal Netherlands,

I especially enjoyed seeing your pic of the Princess Royal, Mary, holding son Gerald.   I've seen images of Mary in her youth and around the time of her marriage to Lascelles, but few from her later life.   Is there another thread you could point me to that has some?    Thanks again!

The Windsors / Re: Queen Alexandra (1844-1925)
« on: March 25, 2006, 11:44:16 PM »
A California Yank views these pics with delight and awe, and wishes to thank those who posted them, for taking him back to a time, place, and people that he never knew, but ones he dreamt that he could have been a part of.

The Windsors / Re: Queen Mary part 2
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:03:24 AM »
I just stumbled onto this site, and I am simply amazed by it, especially this thread.  Thank you all so much for
these wonderful, and for me, rare shots of Queen Mary.   I must be heaven!   I'm a regular visitor to her namesake liner in Long Beach CA, and have crossed the Atlantic twice on the new QM2.   Three Cheers, and Huzzah! to one of England's most noblest queens.    

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