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The Imperial Family / Re: Pronounciation
« on: November 17, 2004, 02:14:36 PM »
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Mlle = Mademoiselle.


See, I knew there was a reason I got booted from French Honors my Junior year.  ::) ;D

Alexa

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The Imperial Family / Re: Pronounciation
« on: November 17, 2004, 02:03:36 PM »
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Mme= Madame


I know it's been a long time since I took HS French, but I thought "Mme" was mademoiselle.

Alexa

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Investigación Anastasia. Argentina
« on: November 17, 2004, 12:56:23 PM »
Here it is.  The second part (the one picturing the GD's) goes at the bottom left had side of the first part (the one with Alix), so that the verbage on part 2 matches the verbage in column 3 of part 1.

Alexa





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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Investigación Anastasia. Argentina
« on: November 17, 2004, 09:44:35 AM »
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Yeah Alexa please do as i want to read it becasue ever since it came out in the threads i was looking for it and i can't find it.  please scan it or if you can please email it to me you can go to me profile and see my email address.  

thanks alot


Not a problem.  It's right by the front door (I left it there last night so I wouldn't forget it -- lot of good that did!), so when I go home for lunch I'll make a point to bring it back with me.  

If I can scan it so it's not too big, I'll post in on the forum.  If not, I'll turn it into a pdf and e-mail it you and anyone else who wants it.

Alexa

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Investigación Anastasia. Argentina
« on: November 17, 2004, 08:34:49 AM »
I forgot to bring the article to work with me, but this is the gist of it.

A woman from Argentina (but is originally from Germany) claims she is the 6th child of Alix and Nicky, and was born while the IF was imprisoned in Tobolsk.  She claims that the Kaiser helped her escape to Germany where she was adopted by well-to-do family.  She married an Argentinian man and eventually figured out she was Irina Nicolaevna Romanov.  It's an old, old article.  There's no date, but from the ad on the back, I'd place it in the second half of the 1970's (maybe very early '80's).  The article was touted as a "Globe Exclusive," so you know the caliber of the paper it's from.  There's also a picture of the so-called GD Irina Nicolaevna.

If anyone's interested, I can scan the article and e-mail to you.

Alexa

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Investigación Anastasia. Argentina
« on: November 16, 2004, 02:23:10 PM »
I completly forgot to check when I was home.  I'll write myself a note so I don't forget again.

Alexa

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Investigación Anastasia. Argentina
« on: November 15, 2004, 02:44:05 PM »
Years ago I bought some old books on the IF, and in one of them is a newspaper clip about one of the claimants.  I think it might have been about this person.  I'll check when I get home and let you know.

Alexa

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: AA and FS
« on: November 12, 2004, 12:50:10 PM »
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But I wonder then how they decided that she was murdered by this particular serial killer? Was it just because she fit the profile of his victims, or was there another reason? Was it because something that sounded like her name was noted, and the fact that she dissapeared while these murders were going on so they decided that she must have been murdered by him? There has to be at least some direct evidence that she was murdered by him... isn't there? Otherwise everyone who dissapears for whatever reason has to be assumed to be murdered?


I'm very curious about this as well.  I'd love to see the police report -- could be interesting stuff.  I also wonder how the police investigation would match up to today, i.e. if the findings would still be valid, or if some modern day sleuth did some digging around they would come up with new and/or important information not known back in 1920.

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P.S. Why is it that bodies are always dumped in Jersey?  ;)


As a New York snob, I could give you my theory, but I'd probably offend the Jersyites on the board. ;)

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: AA and FS
« on: November 12, 2004, 11:10:05 AM »
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I still would like to know why the police would declare someone murdered if there was no body? They don't even do that these days, when they actually can get forensic evidence, let alone in the 1920's.

Helen


Actually, the police declare people dead/murdered even if the body hasn't been found.  Take a look at Kenneth and Sante Kimes.  They murdered a wealthy old woman in NYC.  Her body has yet to be found, and both Kimes's were convicted of her murder.  It was only after the conviction that Kenneth confessed to the murder and said the body was dumped in Jersey.  In a court of law, you don't need a body to prove guilt/convict, although it helps so much that prosecutors hardly take such a case to court.

Alexa

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The Windsors / Re: Prince Albert Victor (Eddy)
« on: November 11, 2004, 12:58:08 PM »
Just looking at the Wales girls makes it hard for me to breath.  Ugh!  I can't even imagine being bound so tightly that my waist would be that small.  Needless to say, I'm quite happy to live in this day and age.

Alexa

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Robert never said it was justified because they were revolutionaries.


I dont' think that's what Annie meant (or at least it's not the way I interpreted her response).  The way I took is that it's evil for anyone to hurt or kill and child, but to justify your actions in the name of a revolution takes it above and beyond evil, to a level of evil that's just unspeakable and reprehensable.

Alexa

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The Final Chapter / Re: The Missing Bodies
« on: October 21, 2004, 08:42:30 AM »
This may sound gross and mobid (appologies for that), but I would be intersted if someone from the forensic world could re-create the disposal of the bodies using cadavers that resemble the height and weight of the IF and their retainers.  There's so much speculation over the condition of the bodies, and it seems to me that the only way to have any real sense of what went on is to re-create the event and walk in Yurovsky's footsteps.  Do everything he did, from tossing bodies down a mine shaft and then a gernade, to trying to burn 2 of the bodies.  The results may still be speculative since we can't go back in time and witness what happened, but historians could then eliminate the less possible scenarios. Sounds morbid, I know, but scientists do this type of stuff (maybe not to this extent) to learn what happens to bodies in different stages of decompostion under certain circumstances.  I'd be intersted to see if Yurovsky's words match up to a recreation.

Alexa

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Anna Anderson and Anastasia
« on: October 20, 2004, 08:43:45 AM »
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....Anna Anderson's behavior is striking, in that she behaved exactly as the [other] exiled grand dukes and duchesses did. Even in times when she was poor and destitute the thought of going out and finding any kind of employment WHATSOEVER never seems to have crossed her mind. In other words, she behaved exactly as one would expect a displaced grand duchess to behave, and exactly opposite of how a "working girl" would act.
     This seems to be a glaring example of subconscious behavior revealing, at least, what socio-economic class of people she came from.


I tend to disagree that AA's lack of motivation to find a means of self-support an argument that she was AN.  I once knew someone (who ended up marrying and soon after got divorced from a very good friend of mine) who had the same narsacistic self-entitlement issues that AA did.  This woman displayed through her actions her belief that for the lone reason that she existed that everything should be handed to her.  It was her God given right that the world revolve around her, and God put the rest of us on this planet to serve and support her.   Nothing was ever good enough.  And if she didn't get her way, she would begin to manipulate the poor unsuspecting souls who were her friends in order to achieve what she wanted (to not work, not have to worry about paying rent, putting her own needs before that of anyone else's including her own child).  She is not a woman who grew up in the lap of luxury.  In fact, she was at the most lower-middle income while growing up, but I would say more likely she would have been considered lowincome.  And yet, she still had the attitude that she deserved all the benefits of working toward a goal of any kind without having to put in any effort.  Like I said, she existed, and therefore she deserved it, more so than the next person who did work for what they got, and how dare that person have more of anything (happienes, money, material things or any kind) than she.

So, to cut my rambing off before I go too far (if I haven't already) my point is, you don't have to be born rich or royal to be born with a sense of self entitlement.  Narcasism is psycological issue that anyone born to any family can have.

Alexa

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The Final Chapter / Re: The Missing Bodies
« on: October 18, 2004, 09:54:23 AM »
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Horrible, nasty subject, but the burning of human remains is virtually impossible unless in very special, supervised circumstances.   Even in the confines of crematoria, the femurs are not completely reduced in the intense, regulated heat.   It is, I am told, virtually impossible to destroy teeth.   The remains require to be ground down. This is in the 21st century and in controlled conditions.   (I once was regaled with the workings of crematoria - during research for a documentary, I was unable to sleep for about three nights...  the delights of the life of a journalist).   I only raise this now because it is pertinent to this subject.  

Hindu funeral pyres in India take hour upon hour of constant tending by numerous people - and this is only to reduce one human body.
  
I once thought the two younger bodies were 'disposed of' first, simply because they were the youngest, therefore the smallest.   But I was wrong.   Alexei grew considerably in height whilst in Tobolsk - he was taller than his father.   Alexandra F also wrote remarking on how fat Anastastia had grown - just like Marie before her.

I'm with Lisa, the more one studies this case, the less one knows.

tsaria




Not to be gross, but this backs up what tsaria said.  

I have a family member who requested he be cremated when he died, but insisted that the crematorium grind up what bones were left behind so he was all dust.  He had apparantly seen the remains of another family member after cremation and was horrified to see bits of bone mixed with the ashes.  My point is, that even if the 2 missing bodies were burned to the point of getting crematorium results, there would have been  bits left over, hands down, no questions asked.  I doubt under the circumstances Yuroksky was facing, he would have been able to have the bodies burned to a cremated body's state.  If the bodies were burned, then there's something left of them somewhere.  Personally, I stay on the fence with this one, but is a topic that is quite intersting.

Alexa

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The Final Chapter / Re: The Missing Bodies
« on: October 18, 2004, 09:46:30 AM »
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Hi Elizabeth

I just purchased "The Fall of the Romanovs". Which photographs are you referring to? I haven't noticed any mistakes myself, are there different editions or did I mistake OTMA for their mother too:-[?

Karentje


It was the first edition of Fall of the Romanovs.  There's a picture of Olga in bed (at least, she looks like Olga to me), and other of Marie (again, that's who she looks like to me) with Nicky.  Both girls are labled as Alix.

Alexa

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