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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Space Alien Intervention.......
« on: January 12, 2006, 12:27:31 AM »
Caleb, hold your horses. The Mod or Admin might not have seen this thread yet. It's a big site and they can't be everywhere at once. If you have a concern, send the Mod or Admin a private message.

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What bothers me is that people would label books and authors as unreliable and not fit to be read.....censorship at its worst!
 

Again, this is a fallacy. It is important in the pursuit of information and knowledge to know which writers are basing their words on solid, ethical research and investigation and which are just slopping the hogs, so to speak.

I've no problem reading fiction, but I want it to be clearly marked as such or know going in that it is. This is not censorship, rather it is forearming oneself in the face of fiction disguised as fact. If I choose to read the writers or books mentioned here, I am now going to be looking for invention where I might not have done before.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed thus far.

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Nicholas II / Re: Nicholas II was Unprepared to Rule. Why?
« on: January 04, 2006, 11:53:50 PM »
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I'm not sure if they are available online, but you might want to check the Final Chapter threads for translations.  I know the letters are reproduced in The Fall of the Romanov's, by Mark Steinberg and in The Fate of the Romanov's by Greg King and Penny Wilson.

Thank you, Rich. They're on my to-buy lists already. Guess I'll have to just do it.

Just to add something so this post is on-topic, re: Elisabeth's original post: "So why do we seem to blame Nicholas II for everythign that went wrong in Russia both during and after his reign?" At this point, I don't think he can be held responsible for the Bolsheviks eventually coming to power, but he must a great deal of the burden of and blame for the original revolution and the fallout from that must rest squarely on his shoulders. Revolutions simply do not happen overnight. The feeling festers and grows until it explodes in an act, usually of violence. Had he been more willing to institute progressive reforms and hear the will of the people as expressed in 1905 (how many revolutions does it take?), he may have saved the State and himself in the long run.

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Books about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: Authors to avoid?
« on: January 04, 2006, 12:06:05 AM »
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Perhaps it hsould not be "list of authors" but "list of books."  Certainly there are some books that are quite bad, filled with the wrong information or with a certain obvious slant to prove a point, at whatever cost, like the Anna Anderson saga, or do a hatchet job on someone.

Those one should keep away from and instead purchase seriously researched, reliably written books.  On that note I am in complete agreement with you.

Arturo BeÚche

An even better suggestion! Thank you. Do you have any you would like to submit to this list of books to avoid?

(PS - I'll PM a Mod with a request to change the thread title.)

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Books about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: Authors to avoid?
« on: January 03, 2006, 02:41:04 PM »
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Making a subjective list of "authors to avoid" smacks me as some sort of censorship effort.  I agree with Robert Hall - read first, then make up your own mind...God gave us a brain to put to good use and base our opinions on our own impressions, not on the opinions held by others.

Arturo BeÚche

Sir, I certainly didn't mean any offense nor would I ever champion censorship of any kind. My question was related to those writers who feel it necessary to either advance an agenda or blatantly and without acknowledgement blend fact with fiction, which, in my mind, is far worse than any censorship. As Sarushka said, it is important to know who has done credible, ethical research and then written adhering to those same standards. Greg King, on this very board, once admitted to ignoring evidence he didn't like because it conflicted with his emotional attachment to the Empress at the time he wrote The Last Empress. While I understand this type of situation is sometimes hard to avoid in biographical studies, it is important (to me, at least) to know of this type of bias going in.

While we all have brains and opinions (to wit, your post quoted above), not all of us have either the time or the money to spend purchasing purposely inaccurate works. The intent of this thread was merely to gain a sense of those writers whose efforts are intellectually honest and, therefore, worth purchasing and those who are decidedly not.

I am perfectly capable of coming to a decision on my own, thank you very much, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with soliciting the advice of those who have previously been there and made those mistakes.

Thanks to all of you who have responded.
Elisabeth, I've only just discovered Pipes' books on Amazon, so I was looking to others to for their opinions of his credibility and balance. You have reassured me. I'll check out Steinberg and Khrustalev's work. Thanks.
Annie, please PM me with your thoughts.
Mr. Hall, I was hoping to avoid the trash you spoke of! lol But I'll probably wind up reading it all anyway, as you did.
Sarushka, your posts were exactly the answers I was looking for, thank you. That you would acknowledge disagreement with King & Wilson's book but recommend it anyway is the sort of objectivity I was hoping to find.

Sarushka said, " Maybe we should alter the subject to "Authors Known to be Unreliable"?" Perhaps that would be best, as it is truer to my thoughts when I posted this thread.

Elisabeth, I have read Michael and Natasha. I found the odd parallels to Nicholas and Alexandra astounding but was annoyed that Crawford spent so little time on the Countess after the revolution and that Crawford's animosity towards Alexandra was so obvious, but I was fascinated by the details of the time between Nicholas' abdication and Michael's death. It provided a lot of information I was unaware of before.

Oh, and I adore Charmed but never got to see much of Buffy. Holly Marie Combs rocks! ;)

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Hello all. I apologize if this has been mentioned previously in a thread of its own, but I didn't find one.

My question is simple: Who are the authors one should avoid reading (because of either obvious agendas or presentation of fictitious "information" as fact, etc.)? Conversely, then, who are the most reliable writers out there?

I've picked up some tips from the discussions, such as Radzinsky tops the Avoid List, but what about others, such as Richard Pipes?

Just for kicks, here is my Amazon Wish List. Where am I making a mistake and what changes should I make?
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Thanks!!

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Nicholas II / Re: Nicholas II was Unprepared to Rule. Why?
« on: December 22, 2005, 02:07:32 AM »
Are the texts of any of these forged rescue letters (and the IF's responses) available anywhere online, please? Thanks.

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haha...just watch what you say, okay?

Well he's admitted he doesn't read newspapers, so the logical next step is...? I'm absolutely no fan of the man (I voted against him twice, sorry Lanie). There are just so many political connections I can make to this, but I'll be nice. ;) I agree, Lanie, that W should have tried to find a source that wouldn't provide him with faulty intelligence. *cough!* :D

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Guess it only matters to what degree what one's need to really have answers to and go on from there...because in the end it really matters nought, as they are now deceased, and there are more important issues and subject matters to address.  ;)

Tatiana


If one takes this argument only in its entirety, then this board and the entire study of history is rendered pointless. [Because, as you say, they're all deceased and there exist matters of present importance to address (such as the "War on Terror" or what's for dinner).]

However, if one understands that various and sundry aspects of one's personality impact one's beliefs, decisions and actions, then one may begin to comprehend how the Grand Duke's sexuality (and whether or not he acted upon these urges) may have influenced his life. As example, imagine if no one ever discovered Konstantin Konstantinovich's diaries and never knew of his torturous struggle with his natural sexuality. To say that this never influenced his life would be incorrect. Therefore, in the pursuit of historical truth and context, one's sexuality is important, no matter if hetero, homo or bi.

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BeNeLux Royalty / Re: TRH Prince Laurent & Princess Claire and family
« on: December 15, 2005, 02:54:32 PM »
Please excuse firstly my ignorance and secondly if this has been discussed previously, but what is the origin or significance of using "Marie" in a male child's name? Thanks in advance!

My late congratulations to the Royal Couple!

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Cheers for your most polite question/comment....
When one sees the actually quite small area in front of a wall,near a corner,of that basement room...and the number of shooters involved...can one ever actually believe that ANYONE could have come out alive?...I guess I just have more faith and belief in the purpose and focus of the execution squad.....and it gives me NO happiness.... :'(

Such a very good point, etonexile. The execution squad did have a sense of purpose, didn't they.

For further clarification, have the measurements of that wall/the room been posted anywhere? If so, they've escaped my brain. Thanks.

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Bayern is the German spelling of Bavaria.

Ah! And it all makes sense now! Thank you. I can't believe I never knew that!

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HRH Crownprincess Antonia of Bayern, born princess of Luxembourg (Photo from Danjel's Royal Splendour)

http://nl.msnusers.com/RoyaltyDanjel/jouwwebpagina7.msnw

Crown Princess of Bayern? What is Bayern? I've never heard of it before.

Thanks to all who posted pix, especially those with captions. Some magnificent stuff here!

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I've read this entire thread and I have two things to say:

1. These are extremely personal attacks on Ms Wilson. When one questions someone's work ethic and the quality of one's professional output, it is always personal. The reality in America today is that we are what we do. She provided information to an internet message board--not in a professional, academic forum (although there are some professionals here)--from a source who wishes to remain anonymous, just as any good journalist is wont to do from time to time. There is no crime in this. If she doesn't have proof, then perhaps those who wish to disavow her information should do the research and either prove or disprove it.

2. Why hasn't this thread been locked and those who are hurling personal attacks warned? It is beyond time, in my humble opinion, that this be done.

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Imperial Claimants Post Here / Re:  past lives?
« on: September 21, 2004, 04:56:42 PM »
I never even entertained the concept of reincarnation until i was in junior high school. As a major history freak, I have read nonfiction all my life. I didn't read fiction by choice until high school. At any rate, I was reading a biography of Josef Tito and this particular book included a photograph (of whom I cannot remember) of a person who I knew--deep in my soul, I just felt I knew this person.  :o It was the most bizarre thing. I went to everyone I could think of, showing them the picture, asking if he looked like someone I could possibly know. Not one single person had ever seen anyone who looked like this man. It kinda freaked me out at the time, but now I'm desperately trying to find that book so I can figure out who that picture was!

That experience has caused me to desire a past-life-regression-hypnosis session, but I'm a little bit wary. I would insist on having a witness present and having the whole thing videotaped. Just for my own security and the knowledge beyond a shadow of a doubt that the hypnotist didn't "suggest" I remember things. Has anyone done this?

Great thread otmagal!!  ;D

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