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The Wittlesbachs / Re: The Wittelsbach Diamond
« on: January 23, 2010, 11:53:50 AM »
This diamond was really beautiful,

"was" is probably the right expression.  After centuries of retaining its original Indian cut, the formerly unique diamond has now been re-cut by the jeweller Graff to "improve" its looks and adjust it to modern tastes.


See the difference here (the first image shows the "improvement"):

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub117C535CDF414415BB243B181B8B60AE/Doc~EBFF3611D4C77493E9F0EA19A5ACA231E~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

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The Wittlesbachs / Re: books
« on: January 16, 2010, 12:57:11 PM »
question are there any photo albums?

Martha Schad: Bayerns Königshaus. Die Familiengeschichte der Wittelsbacher in Bildern.
(Translation: The Royal House of Bavaria. The story of their family in pictures.)

Hella and Eugen von Bayern: Die Wittelsbacher und ihre Hunde.
(Translation: The Wittelsbachs and their dogs.)

The biography about Marie Gabrielle in Bavaria by Mr. Huber also contains a lot of pictures as well as the biography about Antonia of Luxemburg by Jean-Louis Schlim.

And there is the famous "Fanilienalbum von Kaiser FJ und Elisabeth" by Gabriele Praschl-Bichler ... but it's really hard to get.


There is also Sisis Familienalbum by Werner Bokelberg (ed.). One section is about the Wittelsbach relations. The photos are very small, and some of the captions are incorrect, but it's nevertheless a nice little book. Unfortuantely, it is also out of print and not easy to find.

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Having Fun! / Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« on: January 16, 2010, 12:43:57 PM »
I have always wanted to see this movie to. I heard it is one of the more historical correct productions.

Did you? I saw it once on TV and thought it was absolutely terrible. Didn't at all find it in any way accurate, but I don't remember anything now as it was about 20 yearas ago.

The producers went to some lengths to promote the film back then but it was pretty much ignored and has been so since.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Religious Character
« on: January 09, 2010, 03:54:43 PM »
For those who are intersted in the spiritual side of Alexandra I came across this article which you might find interesting....

http://www.bl.uk/eblj/2006articles/pdf/article4.pdf



Indeed a very enlightening article. It provides the insight into Alexandra's religious character all the biographies I've read so far lack.

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The Windsors / Re: Movies about the British Royal family
« on: December 22, 2009, 01:17:06 PM »
I think they re talking about that Tv Series. I also loved it, in fact im trying to get it on DVD

We are. You should indeed try to get a copy!

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Having Fun! / Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« on: December 22, 2009, 01:08:44 PM »
I didn't think part two was any better. Just as inaccurate.

Just like in Sissi they cannot get rid of the "happy couple" myth. Scenes such as when Sisi in support of her husband put her hands on Franz Josef's shoulder in the presence of Bismarck, or her statements "I have waited for you all my life"  and "From now on Maman won't ever go away again" (speaking to Gisela), made me laugh out loud. In reality Elisabeth quite neglected her children after little Sophie's death, but here she's presented as the perfect mother and wife.

Here there was nothing of her depressions, of Franz Josef's infidelities, of the empress's formal ultimatum to her husband to choose between her and Gondrecourt.

And unfortunately Maximilian's death DID NOT bring Sophie and Elisabeth any closer together.

I think Charlotte was the only character I thought convincing.

The film wasn't even good drama as the dialogue and acting seemed trite, mechanical and uninspired.

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The Windsors / Re: Movies about the British Royal family
« on: December 19, 2009, 02:36:04 PM »
Just saw the film. Very dull fiction and bad acting of the whole team. Even my fave Miranda Richardson doesn't save the situation.

The mini-series Victoria and Albert are much and much better, the actors act perfectly, at least they are full of vigour. And actors in this film, Young Victoria, look like mannequins in fancy dresses.

I totally agree. I didn't think the film was bad but I was still in a way disappointed when I recently saw it on DVD. The fact that Lord Melbourne was played by such a young actor annoyed me very much!!!

The film is so very much inferior to Victoria and Albert.

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Having Fun! / Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« on: December 19, 2009, 02:26:12 PM »
Has anyone of those who can receive ORF watched the discussion programme following the first part? What was it like?

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Having Fun! / Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« on: December 19, 2009, 02:19:27 PM »

 the character of the empress was shown in a very exaggerating way. We all know that Elisabeth was unconventional, headstrong and didn't agree with the rules at the Austrian court, but in the movie these features are definitely overdone.

Yes, indeed. Besides, Sisi was rather shy and overawed during the first years as empress and actually in a way tried - if unsuccessfully -  to adjust to the court regime. She also already showed those signs of depression which were to become so obvious later on. In this film she is a self-confident rebel from the start. This isn't much more accurate historically than the housewifely portrayal of the Sissi films.

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Having Fun! / Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« on: December 19, 2009, 01:59:43 PM »
Today the movie starts on the German TV and Austrian Tv. I hope it´s good!!

The first part of the new Sisi movie has already been broadcasted yesterday on ORF (Austrian television). I liked it, but the director Xaver Schwarzenberger couldn't keep his promise to stick to political and historical facts. The young Italian actress who portrayed Elisabeth did a good job, but nevertheless, the character of the empress was shown in a very exaggerating way. We all know that Elisabeth was unconventional, headstrong and didn't agree with the rules at the Austrian court, but in the movie these features are definitely overdone. A lot of scenes were invented (for example: Elisabeth met Andrassy shortly after Sophie's birth in Possenofen) and far-fetched (for example: Elisabeth and Franz spent the night after their wedding somewhere in the gardens of Schönbrunn). Besides, the movie focused on the relationship between Elisabeth and Sophie - in short: good vs. bad.
There were also scenes that reminded me of the Sissi movies: Elisabeth's escape to Possenhofen, the scene in the opera in Milano, the couple in awe of the beautiful Hungarian landscape while being in a carriage, etc. The only negative person is again Sophie. Schwarzenberger kept his picture of the archduchess very close to the one of the Sissi movies, which is a pity.
Anyway, the dresses are amazing!! :-)

I thought it was a complete disappointment.  Unhistorical and still corny. I also thought Capotondi was okay, but the rest was gratuitous. As I thought, the "evil mother-in-law-vs. good and modern Sisi" contrast has been retained. Even worse, I thought Martina Gedeck's Sophie was a lot more unsympathetic than Vilma Degischer's in the Sissi films, and her acting couldn't compare to Degischer's either.


What made the writers turn the Countess Esterhazy-Liechtenstein into Elisabeth's confidante and a rebel in her own right I cannot imagine.

The consummation of the marriage in the park of Schönbrunn was an absolute low point of the film.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Personality Traits - Good & Bad
« on: December 19, 2009, 01:37:45 PM »
We have to remember that Alix was in a desperate situation, very religious, and impressed with Rasputin because he had
miraculous powers over Alexai.

Certainly. But as a public person you have to accept the fact that you have to act as such - IF you mean to KEEP your position in the long run. There is no other way. It was Alexandra's tragedy that she was unable to realise and grasp how her behaviour helped to lead to precisely the opposite of what she  wanted to achieve. Instead of sustaining the regime she helped undermine the public image of the monarchy.

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Personality Traits - Good & Bad
« on: December 19, 2009, 01:18:36 PM »
one of the main flaws of af`s character that influenced her position as the empress was her inability to get on with pople, her inabilty to realize that she was not only a wif and a mother  but THE EMPRESS who had certain roles to fulfil. unlike her mother -in-law whose motto was SMILE! SMILE! af was not able to establish good rapport with people. also, she wanted to live a quit family life at times forgtting or ignoring her role as the emprss.

this is what Marie of romania said (marie and hr son`s carol`s visit to russia when carol`s and olga`s marriag was planned)

alix "managed to put an insuperable distance betwn her world and yours....She made you , in fact, feel an intruding outsider,which is of all sensations the most chilling and uncomfortable...Altough there is little diffrenc in age between us, she had a way of making me feel as though I were not even grown up!"


when the time came to leave tsarskoe selo, marie said

"To part from ai was not difficult,she mad lav-taking quite easy. Her lif was lik a closd chamber, peopled with strange imaginations and still stranger individuals, into which no outsider had
entry...No, it was no grief to leave Alix".

This comment of Marie's also struck me. I think it very well sums up what made ALexandra a complete failure as empress of Russia.

And not to smile in public when you are the empress is absolutely inexcusable.

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Having Fun! / Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« on: December 12, 2009, 01:23:57 PM »
I hope it will have the same quality "The Crown Prince" has. That series is amazing, it has the best portrayal of Rudolf and the events surrounding his life. It has some dramatic inventions but other than that i've never seen a better movie. I hope this series on Sisi will be a correct one, with not too much romantic inventions - even though I fear it won't, since the actors do not resemble the characters at all.



No, indeed. The cast do not resemble the real people much. What I really fear is that the film will once more give a very one sided and biased portrait of Archduchess Sophie as the mother-in-law from hell who allegedly never wanted Elisabeth as empress in the first place.

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Having Fun! / Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« on: December 10, 2009, 03:41:05 PM »
The new Austro-Italo-GermanTV film will finally show next week:

http://sisi.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/19/0,1872,7943379,00.html?dr=1

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