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Iberian Royal Families / Re: Spanish Habsburg Queens
« on: May 06, 2005, 01:29:18 PM »

Philip IV of Spain also had many mistresses and bastards. He fathered a total of 30 illegitimate children, but I only have information about some of them:

1. Margarita de Austria (1625-1650), born to Philip and a young woman from Madrid whose name is unknown. She was a nun since 1641 in the Descalzas Reales Convent in Madrid.

2. Francisco Fernando Isidro de Austria (1626-1634), born to Philip and María de Chirel (1607-1626). He died being a little boy and he was posthumously recognized, as he was buried in El Escorial Monastery.

3. Juan José de Austria (1629-1679), born to Philip and one of his favourite lovers, the actress María Inés Calderón y Velasco (1611-1676), ''La Calderona''. Juan José was Viceroy of Cataluña and Naples and some kind of ''Primer Minister'' in Spain during Charles II's (his half-brother) reign (1677-1679). He had three illegitimate daughters, all of them nuns and died without offspring.

4. Domingo de San Cristóbal (1631-1683), born to Philip and a woman from Calahorra whose name is unknown. He was an Agustinian monk since 1649.

5. Alfonso Enríquez de Santo Tomás (1634-1692), born to Philip and Tomasa Aldana (1617-1676). He was Bishop of Osma (1653-1692), Plasencia (1657-1692) and Málaga (1664-1692).

6. Juan Cossío del Sacramento (1640-1701), born to Philip and Teresa Aldana (1620-1664), who was sister of another of Philip's mistresses. Juan was an Agustinian monk since 1655.

7. A son named Carlos whose fate and mother are unknown.

8. Alonso Antonio de San Martín (1636-1708), born to Philip and Mariana Pérez de Cuevas. Monk since 1650, Bishop of Oviedo (1656-1664) and Bishop of Cuenca (1664-1708).

9. Fernando Valdés y de Uribeondo (1638-1702), born to Philip and Ana María de Uribeondo (1620-1703). Governor of Novara since 1661, he married Anna Maria di Capece (1642-1685) in 1660. I don't know if they ever had children.

10. Ana Margarita de Austria (1641-1699), born to Philip and Margarita del Escala (1625-1699). She was a nun since 1656.

As I have said Philip had another 20 illegitimate children, but I have no information about them!

Iberian Royal Families / Spanish Habsburg Queens
« on: May 05, 2005, 03:49:12 PM »
8. Isabelle of Bourbon (1603-1644): She was one of the daughters born to King Henry IV of France and his second wife, Marie de' Medici. She married future Philip IV in 1615, although their marriage would not be consummated until 1620. In 1621 she became Queen of Spain after her husband succeeded his father. She was beautiful, charming, intelligent and witty, but despite these facts, Philip was constantly unfaithful to her, something that made Isabelle suffer quite a lot. During her last years she opposed Philip's favorite, the Conde-Duque de Olivares, until he was dismissed in 1643. Isabel would die a year later, after having had ten pregnancies:

- Margarita Maria (1621-1621).
- Margarita María Catalina (1623-1623).
- María Eugenia (1625-1627).
- A miscarried girl (1626).
- Isabel María Teresa (1627-1627).
- Baltasar Carlos (1629-1646). Who was Prince of the Asturias but died very young.
- María Antonia Dominica Jacinta (1635-1637).
- María Teresa (1638-1683), who became Queen of France by marrying her cousin Louis XIV (1638-1715) in 1660.
- A miscarried girl (1640).
- A miscarried boy (1644).

9. Mariana of Austria (1634-1696): Born to Emperor Ferdinand III and Mary of Spain, she had been engaged to Prince Baltasar Carlos since she was two years old. When Baltasar died in 1646, she was chosen by her uncle Philip IV to be his second wife, as he had lost his wife two years earlier and his only son just a couple of months before. A marriage by proxy was held in 1648, but Mariana wouldn't arrive in Spain until late 1649, when she was properly married to her uncle Philip. He was 44 at the time, while Mariana was not yet 15. Although a happy couple for a while, Philip's constant infidelities and Mariana's everyday-growing bad temper made the marriage an unhappy one, in which the King and Queen only seemed to agree in one point: the making of babies:

- Margarita María Teresa (1651-1673), who married her uncle-cousin Emperor Leopold I (1640-1705) in 1666.
- María Ambrosia de la Concepción (1655-1655), an epyleptic who died with just 15 days of age.
- A daughter that just survived 10 hours (1656).
- Felipe Próspero (1657-1661).
- Fernando Tomás (1658-1659).
- Charles II (1661-1700), who became the heir to the throne.

After Philip IV's death Mariana became Queen Regent during the minority of Charles II. Although this Regency should have ended in 1675, Mariana continued to over influence her mentally retarded son all through her life. She died in 1696, of breast cancer, four years before her son's death.

10. María Luisa of Orleans (1662-1689): Daughter of the homosexual Philip of France and of the hysterical and witty Henrietta Anne Stuart, María Luisa would marry Charles II in 1679. Charles would love her with all his sick heart and she would end up feeling some type of affection for him. Accused of the couple's lack of heirs, she was forced to drink many weird potions that caused her the appendicitis that finally killed her.

11. Maria Anna of Neoburg (1667-1740): She had been born to the Elector of Neoburg, Philip Wilhelm Wittelsbach and to his second wife, Elisabeth Amalia of Hesse-Darmstadt. She was chosen as a wife for Charles II because her parents had produced 23 children and she was expected to do the same. Unlike María Luisa, she never resigned to her fate and she used her sick and mentally retarded husband as much as she liked, even inventing she was pregnant in order to gain more influences over Charles. She got to invent 12 different pregnancies!! She was a corrupt woman who never felt any type of compassion for the King until his last days, when she wouldn't separate from the dying king's bedside. Once Charles was dead she tried to make her nephew Charles of Austria (future Emperor Charles VI) the new king. But the new king of Spain, Philip V, arrived in Madrid before Charles and forced the Queen Dowager to abandon the Spanish capital. After living in Toledo for a while, Maria Anna would be expelled from Spain and ended up living in Bayonne, under Louis XIV's vigilance. She would return to Spain in 1739, but not being allowed to return to Madrid, she died in Guadalajara a year later. It was gossiped that during her exile years she secretly married one Jean de Larrétéguy, by whom she supposedly had some children.

Well I hope you have enjoyed reading this HUGE text if you didn't end up confused by so many names and family relations. Sorry if my English is, at times, very ''Spanglish'', hehe! Ah! and sorry about the translation of names, don't know if they are absolutely correct or if in English you just leave them as they are in the source language. Any doubt or problem, please ask!


Hi again!

Although this is quite an old message, I would like to reply in order to trace Queen Fabiola's ancestry until we reach her royal ancestors from the Spanish royal branch of the Aragon Crown.

King Juan II of Aragon (1398-1479), who was father of Ferdinand the Catholic and Queen Eleanor of Navarre, fathered an illegitimate daughter by  a woman called Leonor de Ansa:

1. Leonor de Aragón (1450-1511; she was a half-sister of Ferdinand the Catholic). She married in 1467 Louis II de Beaumont (1447-1508), whom I don't really know if he was count or duke of Beaumont, France. They had issue:

2. Luis III de Beaumont (1470-1530), who married Brianda Manrique de Lara (1473-1548) in 1486. They had issue:

3. Pedro de Beaumont (1488-1539), who married María de Corres (1491-1566) in 1510. They had issue:

4. Catalina de Beaumont (1511-1575), who married Carlos Ayanz de Navarra (1504-1559) in 1530. They had issue:

5. Francisco Ayanz de Navarra y de Beaumont (1533-1592), who married Antonia de Castro (1540-1601) in 1554. They had issue:

6. Jerónimo Ayanz de Navarra y Castro (1560-1631), who married Cristina de Ureizábal (1562-1610) in 1576. After this marriage proved barren, being Jerónimo a widower, he married his niece Margarita María de Guzmán y Ayanz de Navarra (1595-1686) in 1611.  They had issue:

7. María Antonia Ayanz de Navarra y Guzmán (1620-1699), who married her cousin Gaspar de Elio y Guzmán (1609-1668) in 1638. They had issue:

8. José Sebastián de Elio y Ayanz de Navarra (1645-1702), who married Carlota Felipina de Zendra y Pellisette (1650-1713) in 1667. They had issue:

9. Tomás Francisco María de Elio y de Zendra (1671-1739), who married his cousin María Francisca de la Torre y de Zendra (1679-1746) in 1698. They had issue:

10. Francisco de Elio y de la Torre (1700-1755), who married María Teresa Josefa Berenguer y Despujols (1703-1779) in 1723. They had issue:

11. Fausto Joaquín de Elio y Berenguer (1730-1801), who married Ana María de Doria y Marcoso (1731-1782) in 1758. They had issue:

12. Francisco Javier de Elio y Doria (1762-1833), who married María Carmela de Alda y de Ybarra (1768-1855) in 1782. They had issue:

13. Fausto León de Elio y de Alda (1794-1882), who married María Teresa de Jesús de Aybalde y Urrestarazu (1800-1852) in 1818. They had issue, all dead in childhood. Because of this Fausto remarried in 1853. This time his wife was one of his nieces, María Micaela del Amparo de Magallón y de Elio (1835-1907). They had issue:

14. María Micaela del Pilar de Elio y de Magallón (1853-1930), who married Anastasio Carrillo de Albornoz y Dexeus (1834-1871) in 1868. They had issue:

15. María Blanca Carrillo de Albornoz y de Elio (1869-1935), who married César de Aragón y Barroeta-Aldemar (1864-1954) in 1891. They had issue:

16. María Blanca de Aragón y Carrillo de Albornoz (1892-1974), who married Gonzalo José Mora y Fernández (1887-1957) in 1916. They had issue:

17. Fabiola Fernanda María de las Victorias Antonia Adelaida Mora y de Aragón (1928-), who married Baudouin I (1930-1993), King of the Belgians in 1960. No issue was born from the marriage.

Although some of the info that I have here was not taken out from a totally reliable source (for example the wives of numbers 8 and 9 or the first wife and children of number 12), the lineage can be traced following the principal line. Hope to have helped you!!

PD. For heaven's sake!! How could Queen Fabiola be Queen Catherine of Aragon's descendant if all of Catherine's children died in infancy or birth except for Mary I (1516-1558), who died childless!!


My name is Gonzalo and I am Spanish, born and brought up in Madrid.

In response to Mandie's message I would like to say that in Spain, like in Portugal, France and other countries, women are called María lets say ''making honour'' to Virgin Mary, but the name really doesn't mean anything more in itself. Maria de las Mercedes was called Mercedes by her family and friends, the same way María Teresa was called Teresa (or Maritere by other relatives).

I read at the start of this post that Alfonso XII would have prefered to marry archduchess Elisabeth instead of María Cristina, but his attraction to Elisabeth never was so intense! When he first met María Cristina and Elisabeth he was accompanied to the meeting by a friend whose name I really can't remember now, I'will try to search it later. Alfonso said to this friend after that first interview something like: ''Crista is not so bad as people had told me, but have you seen my mother-in-law? Well, that's a real ''cañón''! Which in Spanish means she was explosively attractive.

Well, hope I've helped you! Congratulations for your site!

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