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Yes, it is. I wonder if her other daughter Alexandrine (Queen of Denmark) was named in honor of Sandro?

I think Queen Alexandrine of Denmark was named after Grand Duchess Alexandrine of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1803-92) (nee Princess of Prussia),her great-grandmother

Not exactly related with the topic but worth to seeing
Ella in modern paintings


The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria
« on: October 26, 2004, 12:49:05 PM »
Hi Svetabel

I hadn't heard that story about Toria yet. How awful for her.

I had been surprised too. Hmm, some sons of Grand Duke Michail Nikolaevitch and his sharp-tongued wife Olga Fedorovna were unbelievably misunderstanding and heartless from time to time.

The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria
« on: October 26, 2004, 06:52:58 AM »
I have recently re-read “Emperor Nicholas II” by A.Bokhanov (Russian edition) and found a sad episode in Toria`s life .In 1887 Grand Duke Michail Michailovitch, an elder brother of famous “Sandro”, visited Enland. Queen Victoria had believed in possible engagement between Michail and Toria. But the shameless Grand Duke declared to young Toria that he “did not love her” and “would not love her”  though “if it was necessary he would marry her”. Poor Toria burst in tears.
QV was shocked.
Well, in 1891 the same Grand Duke married morganatically and settled in Enland. Did he meet Toria? Unlucky princess….

The Dowager Empress, among others (including Grand Duchess Vladimir), doesn't seem to have been terribly fond of Ella.  I've read some private correspondence and memoirs in which Marie Feodorovna makes quite clear her antipathy for Ella, from the 1890s on, and then in a very pronounced way after 1910.  So I don't think that these two women probably got on very well.

Greg King

A.Bochanov in his "Romanovs" (in Russian,edition 2003)
tells (according to private correspondence) about Maria Feodorovna`s anthipathy for Ella in 1890s.Empress Maria thought that Ella had intrigued for marriage between her sister Alix and future Nicolai II.It was  khown that Maria Fedorovna did not want to see her son be engaged with a german princess

I had read "somewhere"  ::) that Beatrice removed  comments about the passionate nature of Victoria's marital life. Perhaps this is true, although certainly enough was left to indicate that Victoria and Albert were not always Victorians in the conventional sense of the term!  ;)

D.Duff in his "Victoria and Albert" wrote much about it.

Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna / Re: Books on Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« on: October 01, 2004, 01:11:04 PM »
Just a little piece of news i wanted to post here:-

In the new catalog for the Amsterdam exhibiton "Nicholas and Alexandra", the bibliography for further reading listed a book titled

"Elisaveta Fedorovna. A Biography. Moscow 2004"

This is the not the rumoured "new Ella book", but it doesn't seem to be a re-edition of a Russian book already existing. I can't seem to track down any more information on it, but so exciting isn't it?! :o

I think it`s Vera Maerova`s  book "Elisaveta Fedorovna.A biography" -but it have been edited in Russian.May be an English version already come? If so - exciting book!
I guess the best  biography of Elisaveta in Russian

Thanks for help! :) :) :)
Now I`m sure -  we can see wonderful little Ena!

I have found an interesting photo.The description is:"Princess Ana of Battenberg and Hessian Princess".So a woman at right is the youngest of King Nikola`s of Montenegro daughters,Ana (1874-1971).
But who is a pretty little girl? She looks like Ena of Battenberg...but I`m doubt about... ???

The Imperial Family / Re: Names, Patronymics, Nicknames and Name Days
« on: September 16, 2004, 03:11:50 AM »
I don't believe that Dmitri Pavlovich was called Metia. Metia was Dmitri Constantinovich. I believe DP was called "Dee-me" or something like that.

I don`t think so."Dima" for Dmitrii often use only nowadays in Russia.Dmitri Pavlovich was "Mitya" or "Mit`ka" or "Miten`ka".Though his sister Maria in her memoirs calls him only Dmitri.

Does anyone have any pictures of Maria Fedorovna's "forgotten" grandsons Georgi Mikhailovich, Tikhon and Guri Nikolaevich???? Thanks a lot!


The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duke Nikolai Konstantinovitch and his family
« on: September 12, 2004, 09:37:31 AM »
This is an abridged excerpt from the White Night of St.Peterburg (The Romanov Family's Black Sheep in Russian) by Prince Michael of Greece. It's a fictional, sometimes distasteful and generally badly-written story based on a few genuine facts about GD Nicolas Konstantinovich.

I read it in Russian and must agree...VERY badly-written story!

Thanks you all!
Really a sad picture....


I read in some books that  Oleg Konstantinovicth,the most talented son of Grand Duke Konstantin ,was engaged with daughter of Grand Duke Petr Nikolaevich,Nadejda..What year  engagement take place? In 1914? And I`ve never seen pictures of Princess Nadejda...Could anyone help me in such searching?

The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duke Nikolai Konstantinovitch and his family
« on: September 05, 2004, 02:35:44 AM »
I've heard that prince Artemi Iskander also was murdered (1919). But it was of 1 source. Who can tell me if it was true and why he was murdered?

There are 2 versions about Artemii`death.
1.He was killed at Civil War in 1919 (or was missing)
2.He died from typhus.
The source of these versions "Romanovs:Story of a Dynasty" by E.Pchelov (in Russian)

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