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The Russian Revolution / Re: Future of the Russian Government
« on: June 07, 2004, 10:37:18 AM »
I hope the comments I made were taken in the way they were intended, it is easy to loinize someone after their deaths but their contributions have to be seen in context.

Admin, please feel free to do whatever is viewed as most appropriate, with these last few postings.


In addition, Michael , had the right idea, only when Russia is ready and it is the will of the nation should a monarchical state ever be entered into. Personally  I think he would have made a great modern Tsar.

The Russian Revolution / Re: Future of the Russian Government
« on: June 06, 2004, 05:09:00 PM »
... and to the thousand who died as a result of his lack of policy in tackling the AIDS/hiv crisis when it was small enough to be of practical effect. God bless them,

He did much, but enough? :-/

"where it now stands; Princess Marie Victoria of Hesse it should be Princess Marie of Hesse        and where it is Prcss Alice Victoria of Hesse it should be Princess Alix of Hesse"

Hope this helps.... she wrote a lot like I do!!

I believe the revolutions in Russia in 1917 are fundamental to the whole developement of the rest of the twentieth century, it is therefore  imperative that we examine the events of the fall of the last home of autocracy and the subsequent reversal of priciple, in Russia and around the world in reaction to it.
Communism has never been practised IMHO. Lenin, peddled Leninist-Marxism, Stalin, was a communist dictator (a contradiction by terms) China suffers the legacy of Maoism. I can't think of a place where communisn as set down in Das Kapital, has ever been more than a policy of principle. No doubt your more geo-politiniks will clarify.
Russia had to change, it's administration before the war, was pushed beyond breaking point. Dissatisfaction, had permeated all ranks of society, even to the heights of the Romanov family, (I refer to the banished Grand Dukes). Nicholas had neither the dynamism or personal strength, to alter the system. Any Tsardom he passed to GD Michael Alexandrovitch, wasn't worth the paper it was written on.
Could Kerenskii have held onto the reins and ridden the Empire onwards, probably not, I believe that the only thing that would have satisfied the popular demand would have been a total change of order.
Personally I like to think that GDss Maria Pavlovna (the elder) should have matched the deed to the word, by organising a proper palace coup, maintaining favour with the upper and mid section of society who'd traditionally loved the Tsar and felt threatened by the radical factions of the revolutionary parties, and given the lower classes a sense of continuity. Of course if this happened the family wouldn't have been so brutally murdered. But that's just my little daydream!
(I apologise if any one is offened by my terminology, I'm English through and through!)

Imperial Russian Antiques / Re: Current House of Faberge
« on: May 19, 2004, 01:55:44 PM »
So whats the story with Victor Meyer, does he have the right to stamp his work FABERGE. Is he associated with the descendants or is his work simply licensed under the name. You can see his works at

As with all the present day reproductions, and that's all they ever can be, whatever trouble or care has gone into these new items, even if they are indentical,( and looking on Ebay , they don't need to come close for someone to buy ) they aren't by Faberge, he never saw them and more than likely would have "pulped" the wares being produced in his name.

Imperial Russian Antiques / Re: Faberge/Cartier Exhibition Munich
« on: May 15, 2004, 04:35:28 PM »
Thanks Nick, and to Pravoslavnaya, seeing the last two pieces of the puzzle sure made my weekend!  

It certainly was worth watching but I found Nicholas' gruff "russki" accent a little overdone, I always thought that Nicholas spoke perfect English, if accented. The programme does portray him as indifferent and aloof. Dithering over the deployment of troops whilst he bathes.
Gina McKee is splendid in the role of Nanny. Surely one of our best actresses, and the portrayal of HMQ Mary by Miranda Richardson is touching and worth seeing for the attitudes of the period towards "disabilities" .
 Prince John wasn't autistic but prone to childhood seizures, possibly epileptic in nature, but he wasn't savant, I suppose the possibility of Prince John having a seizure in public would be too dangerous for the family to deal with. Something we can all understand from what we know of how far Royal parents are prepared to go to "put a brave face on it"

A good drama, acted well with some basis in fact.

I do hope that I haven't spoiled anything for you!!

Imperial Russian Antiques / Re: Favourite Faberge Eggs
« on: May 14, 2004, 05:18:19 PM »
Fascinating question, Faberge will forever be inextricably mentioned in the same breath as N&A for me.

For me the very best of the Eggs Imperial or otherwise are the Winter Egg, and the Pansy Egg. both for me capture what these eggs were made for, the expression of the recipint and the pleasure they brought.

Incidentally if anyone knows where the Pansy Egg is I'd love to know, all avenues are closed.

Imperial Russian Antiques / Re: Faberge/Cartier Exhibition Munich
« on: May 14, 2004, 05:05:17 PM »
To hear at least the description, how I longed over years and years for something on the last Eggs, where can I look for sources pictures? Please? :o

Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Empress Catherine II
« on: May 14, 2004, 04:21:25 PM »
Paul, when born assured Catherine's place at court, even if Elizabeth took  maternal control, which has surely to be the most probable cause for Paul's resentment of his own Mother, "She isn't here- she doesn't care" attitude.
In the early days of the coup,Paul as the closer link in the chain was what made him a direct threat, to her (Catherine's) and his own future, it being easier to side-line a minor as opposed to figure with connections, and support of a regiment or two.  

The Yussupovs / Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« on: May 14, 2004, 11:50:30 AM »
Many years ago I read of Felix returning to his palace after the revolution to rescue paintings and other possesions, I believe he even liberated Marie Feodrovna's favourite portrait of Alexander III fom it's frame . On these expeditions Felix started :-/ concealing more treasures in newly created hidden rooms. Are these all accounted for, Could there still be artefacts held there?.

The Final Chapter / Rescue plans?
« on: May 14, 2004, 10:31:53 AM »
Could some one answer my question.

I appreciate the situation of the Family and that the Soviet had few choices. But wasn't there one single plan to rescue the Tsar's family at all? No one came to their aid? Not any of the important people thay knew and held dear.... It's so sad.

Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Empress Catherine II
« on: May 14, 2004, 10:11:01 AM »
Hi to all, From what I've read on the great lady surely the question of the legitimancy of the subsequent heirs to the throne is entirely unfounded. Her son Paul was from "the other side of the blanket" and therefore the Romanov line ended with Elizabeth surely....or am I wrong. I seem to remember reading in Massie's Nicholas and Alexandra that Nicholas was only by a tiny fraction (1 in 300 parts?) Russian. Making Alexeii 1 in 600?

Wow!! Many many thanks, for all your information, I must say you've more than whetted my appetite.
I'm sure everyone finds their own angle, by which I mean connection with a place, after 15 years of reading whatever I can, which under the English Municipal Library Service is less than definitve, I'm sure I'll recognize immediately.  

Hi to all, it really is encouraging to find so much interest and information. Having had the "bug" for what seems like many years I am now in a position to go and see for myself all the palaces and places that have captured my imagination for so long.
What I'd like to know is what other members would recommend as to the most pertinent places to see beyond the given tours, Alexander/Winter/Catherine Palaces. I do hope you can help


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