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Tsarskoe Selo Palaces / Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« on: August 06, 2013, 10:36:16 PM »
I did a comparison with a modern day photograph and the older one posted here. I noticed that there could be a possible explanation. If you examine a current photo it appears that the ceiling g painting was extend to cover the third tier. I suggest that the ceiling being lower is an illusion created by the extension of the painting and removal of the third tier of decoration. The decorative element could have been a later addition.

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Tsarskoe Selo Palaces / Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« on: August 04, 2013, 05:22:00 PM »
I remember seeing a documentary years ago on the restoration of the main ballroom . It was done by National Geographic. You are correct about the proportions but there had to be a reason. From my own research on Russian Palace architecture I have found that each successive occupant of a given palace would alter it to suit their own tastes. the post war restorers had to decide as to WHEN to restore the rooms to... I suggest that they current look of the main ballroom reflects an earlier period before the pciture posted.

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Rasputin / Re: Why the Yusupov Palace?
« on: July 13, 2013, 05:48:34 PM »
As I understand it from several accounts Rasputin was lured to the Yusupov Palace by a primrose from Felix of a romantic entanglement with his wife.

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Palaces in St. Petersburg / Re: Russian Palace Architecture
« on: April 11, 2012, 12:01:23 AM »
True ... another anachronism....
One of the more beautiful constructions of his reign was the Narodny Dom which was a wooden theater complex built to support the arts and was open to the common people. From what I understand performances were either free or for a nominal fee. The structure was accomplished in the Russian Style but was made of wood and therefore I do not believe it has survived.

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Palaces in St. Petersburg / Re: Russian Palace Architecture
« on: April 10, 2012, 02:38:52 PM »
An interesting catch-22 Nicholas II was the least Russian of all the monarchs yet it was during his reign that the Pan-Slavic movement gained the most momentum

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Palaces in St. Petersburg / Re: Russian Palace Architecture
« on: December 26, 2011, 09:26:44 PM »
Very well put... I would add that they did not copy the west but adapted it to suit the tastes of the reigning monarch. Thus Dutch Baroque became Peter's Baroque, and Elizabeth's Rococo and Catherine's neoclassicism. I think this adaptation was a part of the westerniztion process begun by Peter??

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Palaces in St. Petersburg / Russian Palace Architecture
« on: November 26, 2011, 06:05:38 PM »
I have been studying Russian art and architecture of the Imperial Period for 15 years and I have always found it fascinating how the Russians adopted the styles of the east but did not seek to copy. The different styles of decoration changed with each successive ruler but the basic design of the Palaces changed little from the beginning. Let me begin our discussion by putting forth the question:

Did the Russians copy western ideals or adapt them?

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The Alexander Palace / Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« on: November 26, 2011, 05:58:28 PM »
Somewhere, I believe on this site, there exists a drawing of the facade of the Palace as it was proposed for St. Petersbrug and it would have truly been yet another jewl in Petersburg crown. What I find fascinating is how Quarenghi adopts a slightly different plan for this plan. Russian grand palace architecture seems to follow the same general pattern with a garden facade and main facade that would act as a principal entrance which the Alexander Palace has. There would be a center block and from that extend wings on either side. One need only look at the plans for the Catherine Palace, Peterhof and even Pavolovsk although its wings cirve around a center court. From one of the facades one would enter the main entrance hall which always had some form of a grand staircase. The Alexander Palace lacks this feature. They almost always incorporated a ballroom for entertaining and for court functions as well as Parade rooms. The Alexander Palace lacking the former and having a scaled down version of the later. I would say it is save to say that the Palace design, location and purpose was altered as a cost cutting measure. From my research I firmly believed when the Palace was never intended for functions of state but rather for the functions of family it was first and foremost a summer home.

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The Alexander Palace / Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« on: November 26, 2011, 05:27:58 PM »
From what I understand it was budget and space that was the ultimate deciding factor but I also understand that Catherine by that time in her life largely lived at Tsarskoe Selo and she preferred Alexander to be close. His mother lived at Yelagin in the city. Also the Alexander Palace was meant to be a Summer residence. I think in the city Alexander lived at the Winter Palace or at Kemensotrovsky (traditional home of the heir) but I could be wrong.

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The Alexander Palace / Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« on: November 25, 2011, 03:42:52 AM »
The plan that includes a ballroom was an early plan for the palace that was initially to be built in St. Petersburg and later transfered to Tsarskoe Selo

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There is also evidence that Grand Duke Ernest visit Nicholas and Alexandra (not just from Anna Anderson) in the summer of 1916 with the purpose of sounding them out about the possibilities of forging a separarate peace

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Kamenostrovsky was owned by the Imperial Family and used by heir's to the throne. Alexander I resided here at one point and if I remember correctly it was from here that he planned the defense against Napoleon's invasion. It was used as a rest home for the Air Force during the Soviet period. It had one of the mowst beautiful gardens in St. Petersburg which has been downsized considerably over the years.

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I believe it was during the Patriotic War. According to what I have read Pavlovsk was still burning when the Red Army arrived after it was liberated.

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The triangular frame pictured here looks like one that was on Nicholas's desk in the Old study

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Tsarskoe Selo Town / Re: Mannergeym
« on: December 13, 2010, 12:03:13 AM »
Are you referring to Mannerheim the future Finnish Leader??

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