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Maria Nicholaievna / Re: Maria's name day
« on: December 20, 2009, 12:59:18 PM »
From 22 July/4 August


Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Czarina of Russia???
« on: December 19, 2009, 03:15:54 PM »
tatianolishka 1, totally agree with you. I'm happy that OTMA fans have a critical and holistic view about this situation.

Thank you, Nicolá, for your kind words.

So, I think that possible governing of Tatiana, the simple Russian girl, who was not prepared to govern the country, would not be long, and finally would ended for her and for the country with bad consequences. Catherine the Great failed, Witte failed, Stolypin failed, Kerensky failed and even the Alexander II failed. Of course, our dear Tatiana finally wouldn't had a success. She was just a girl, with the simple school education and a girl, who was spending all her free time in the hospital playing a bezique with officers.

Indeed. I also forgot to mention the mental state of the girls - they were terribly juvenile (see Olga's recently published diary) and showed signs of becoming more and more like their reclusive mother. Olga's mental state during the Great War was not sound (mood swings, smashing windows, withdrawal), but she continued to read of her country's decline as the war went on. Olga began to understand the consequences of her father's old-fashioned ideas. Tatiana? Not so.  Her life was spent in the hospitals, watching the wounded return and holding committees to support the war effort. She didn't see how her father had contributed to their downfall.

With such a distorted view of life, it would only be a female version of Nicholas' reign. He was raised in a similar way - not allowed to grow up.

imo by the time of the revolution, the big pair's interest was thier immediate family and in being in a sense thier parent's champions...this they were until the end.  All the girls showed thier mettle and a great capacity during captivity. I wonder how many of us would do so well ?

Sadly, The family only did what millions of others in their country were forced to do every day since the beginning of their lives, with far more luxuries than any of them could have prayed for.

Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Czarina of Russia???
« on: December 19, 2009, 11:40:38 AM »
Tatiana is an interesting character. She demonstrated a sense of purpose during her short life and did very well under pressure unlike her elder sister or mother. But the strength required to rule a country was something beyond her grasp. None of the children possessed this strength. Heck, even Nicky didn't have it. It is likely she would have followed her father's example of tsardom - she had no interest in the political nature of her country, nor did she have any other examples of good Tsars in her lifetime.

Added to this, the political atmosphere of the turn of the century. Russia wanted change - something Tatiana could never offer to them. The revolution would have happened wether or not she, Olga, Alexei or even Nicky were rulers. I doubt that Tatiana would have made it in that time era for less than a few days. The people of Russia would never accept a new Tsar, let alone a twenty-something year old girl with no training.

Having Fun! / Re: Coloured Pictures XXXIII
« on: December 13, 2009, 10:52:24 AM »
Magdalena - Beautiful!!! B&W please?

Good job to Ally as well! :)

Having Fun! / Re: Coloured Pictures XXXII
« on: November 29, 2009, 06:47:22 PM »
Justine - would you be so kind as to send me the B&W version of the Onegin picture?

Having Fun! / Re: Coloured Pictures XXXII
« on: November 13, 2009, 10:05:40 PM »
isabel - could you send me the B&W of that photo? It's beautiful!

Ally - Nonesense! OTMA look darling, and did excellent with the Alexandra!

This one took forever to the point of where I just forgot about the flowers. XD

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it is quite likely that they did not think anything of it. When QV's children were married, I believe only one of her sons had been suffering from illness of the blood. One of nine children was hardly anything to think of. When the grandchildren came along, there were certainly anomalies - Alice's Frittie, Beatrice's Leopold for example. But again, not many of the grand children suffered and, again, it wasn't thought of. Fast forward to Great Grandchildren and it began to pop up: Alice's grandchildren Alexei, Waldemar and Heinrich; Leopold's Rupert, Beatrice's Alfonso and Gonzalo, etc...

In truth, there was hardly any suspicion within the family until that fourth generation came along. I believe someone had a family tree done up to show this somewhere, but I haven't seen it in awhile. The reality of the bleeding disease did not seem to come until about ten years before the Great War - thirteen years after QV died.

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alix's dog Eira
« on: November 08, 2009, 10:23:57 PM »
1906 - 1908. She is buried on the children's island - there is a photograph of her grave floating around somewhere...

Edit: Date fail. Ergh, so rusty...

Some info I found on the APTM website...

"Madeleine Zanotti was of Italian and English parentage and she spoke English, Italian and German fluently. She came to Russia with Alexandra at the time of the Empress's marriage from England. Zanotti brought Alexandra's terrier, Eira, to Russia and she had pictures of the dog in here. "

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alix's dog Eira
« on: November 08, 2009, 10:17:35 PM »
Very true, po3a - they certainly look similar: (aww!)

Ania V. does mention the dog being recieved from Scotland. However, because the originates in that country does not necessarily mean that it is the specific dog that Alix recieved. Many other terrier breeds existed then! :D

As well, the dog in the photograph (if it is indeed Eira, after all) seems much too big to be a Yorkie. It may just be an unusually large yorkie, however it also has thicker hair than a Yorkie. Perhaps a Skye terrier? Looking at the photo, I doubt it is a Cairn terrier.

Is it just me or does he have floppier ears than typical terriers?

Having Fun! / Re: Coloured Pictures XXXII
« on: November 08, 2009, 07:16:05 PM »
Beautiful job Ally!

Little one I've been working on. :D

Nicky and Ella performing (what I assume to be) Eugene Onegin

Having Fun! / Re: Looking for pictures III.
« on: November 08, 2009, 02:25:24 PM »
Thank you HistoryFreak, but sadly not the one I was looking for. It is a full-length photo of her seated, looking up towards the corner... I'll be asking Holly for it when she comes alive :D Beautiful photos all the same!

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alix's dog Eira
« on: November 08, 2009, 01:32:56 PM »
There was another dog she had prior to moving to Russia - I can't recall it's name, but it was stuffed and is on display in a museum someplace. Yet still, this topic would be better placed in Alix's forum.

Edit: "Cony", an Italian greyhound:

The Imperial Family / Re: Imp. Family/Romanov's Family's Pets Links List
« on: November 08, 2009, 01:16:49 PM »
I believe Eira was a Cairn [sp?] Terrier. I believe there are some letters describing how Alix got this sweet little dog, but I don't have them with me at the moment.

The Imperial Family / Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« on: November 08, 2009, 11:50:23 AM »
There are seemingly HUNDREDS of photographs depicting the girls knitting, sewing, or doing other needleworks. Alix refused to have the girls be idle and almost always had a needleworks project in hand. There is a lovely photo of a young Anastasia sitting on a piano bench in the Mauve Boudouir knitting a rather large blanket that indicates some level of skill.

Alix was likely taught by a maid at her father's court, or possibly her mother if she was taught very early on.

Having Fun! / Re: Looking for pictures III.
« on: November 08, 2009, 11:37:43 AM »
Looking for that lovely photo of Olga from the 1914 formals that eluded us for so long... the one with her profile?

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