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The Windsors / Re: Prince Henry/Prince Harry of Wales
« Last post by GDSophie on Today at 05:01:22 AM »
Apparently they picked the name because of the 'Archie' comics. And Harrison...well, Harry's son.
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The Windsors / Re: Prince Henry/Prince Harry of Wales
« Last post by RoyalWatcher on Yesterday at 06:50:13 PM »
I wasn't expecting the name Archie!
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I think the only way to settle it, if Russia ever does bring back the throne (constitutional obviously) is to usher in a new dynasty. The current Romanovs are so divided on the 'true ruler' that picking from any side would have backlash. Picking a ruler that is Russian, and primarily Russian sounds better to most people. Someone rightfully 'theirs' rather then someone who only possesses an nonfunctional title. Who's connection to their homeland died a long time ago and one they no longer share. The Romanovs can't really say 'no'; they have no power in Russia and their dynasty was founded the same way.

Of course it would probably be hard; if they don't pick someone in or connected to the government they would have to narrow their search. I don't expect them to start knocking on the doors like 'hello, want to be the Tsar of Russia?' but hey, have to start somewhere.
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Having Fun! / Re: Then and now (Locations, clothes, etc)
« Last post by JamesAPrattIII on May 18, 2019, 05:34:29 PM »
I made a post on this on the axis history forum forum.axishistory.com The Soviet Union at War 1917-1945 and got a reply: For the official entrances of Tsar Nicholas II and family 1854-55 memorial
the chapel was bult in 1912-1914 to comemerate the Romanov tercentury located on the site of a church destroyed during the defense of Sevastopol 1954-55 near the barracks of the 37th Naval Regiment. The church was demolished in 1928. The source the reply used was in Russian and I don't read the language. I hope this is of some interest and use. I think i have seen this film clip before.
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Imperial Russian History / Re: The Legacy of Nicholas II
« Last post by JamesAPrattIII on May 18, 2019, 03:47:18 PM »
Nicholas and Alexandra have been blasted for there relations to Rasputin. Emperor Franz Joesph  routinely had breakfast with an actress Katherina Schratt see their wiki bios. According to the World Crises the Eastern Front by Winston S Churchill page 24-25 she was his newspaper on what was going on this book is on archive.org. Also see the miniseries the fall of Eagles. Some high ups weren't happy about this but no one as as hate full to her as some Russians were to Rasputin.
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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: what would you say...?
« Last post by GDSophie on May 18, 2019, 02:22:05 PM »
(me, crawling out of unactivity after forgetting my password and remembering it by typing in a random one on the first try months after trying to get back on originally) I LIVEEEE!

I would tell her everything, and probably tell her to take her children and run the minute she's able even if yes, she has to leave Maria behind (but Kerensky seems like the type of person to allow a recovered Maria and whoever of the staff stays to look after her to leave and join the family). Of course I wouldn't be able to stick around to personally oversee their safety and if I could I would tell her which playmate of Alexei's got him and Olga sick and eventually the other girls so he wouldn't be able to infect them if I knew his identity but unfortunately I don't.

But to your last comment 'however one must recognise that she was a contributing factor, especially given the influence she held with her husband'.

I used to believe as many do that Alexandra's influence on Nicholas was negative and he followed her every command without question. In actuality I have discovered Alexandra's influence was the best thing for Nicholas; the decisions people blame on Alexandra was actually his, not hers, and all of her decisions were actually good for the people. Alexandra is much shrouded in mystery and rumors back then that cropped up that are still believed now don't help. For example people believing she hated Ducky because Marie Pavlovna the Elder said in a letter it was her who exiled her son and Ducky (Marie did not like her one bit and blamed her for almost everything) when in fact she didn't-it was Nicholas who had warned Kirill before hand in a letter-and even pitied her, even afterwards they had frequent visits when they got back from their exile including Ducky being one of Alexei's godparents.

But back to her influence; here's some evidence by Romanov-professionals to back it up.

“It’s often said that he was under the heel of his wife, Empress Alexandra Fedorovna, and that through her acted the evil genius Rasputin. No, no. Alexandra Fedorovna’s real influence on politics arose only in 1915, but even then her influence was far from domineering. This is clearly seen in their personal correspondence. The empress gave the tsar a lot of advice, but in reality, he ignored the majority of it. As for Rasputin, if we look at what advice he gave on domestic and foreign policy, almost none of it was put into practice. Yes, Rasputin tried to play in politics, tried to take the side of this or that power group, or rather, this or that person of authority. But his real influence was small.”

- Fedor Gaida (associate professor in the department of history at Moscow State University)

“Her influence on affairs of state was greatly exaggerated by her detractors. Nicholas never did anything he didn’t himself wish to do. Biggest example of this was Rasputin’s strong advice (he practically begged him) not to get involved in the war because If he does, it will destroy everything. Alix felt same. If only N actually listened to good advice then, but he didn’t. The point is - Nicholas listened to what they had to say, but in the end did what he felt was right. Sometimes that coincided with what Alexandra advised him sometimes it didn’t. But to say that he was her or his puppet, and that she actually had any serious influence on what happened, is absurd.”

- Helen Azar (author of ‘In the Steps of the Romanovs: Final Two Years of the Last Russian Imperial Family’ and several more Romanov books)


“Any normal person would voice his or her opinion to their spouse about things that are going on, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Even if that spouse happens to be a Tsar or king. In fact, it would be a bit weird if they didn’t. I doubt that Alix expected him to do as she said, and of course he didn’t. But she had the right to express her opinion and give advice as his spouse, the rest was up to him, he was the autocrat not her. Besides, we don’t know of whether he tended to use her as a sounding board, as a lot of spouses do for each other.

Personally I don’t think there is anything wrong with her expressing her opinions or even advising him, doing that alone doesn’t actually make it happen. As far as Rasputin, chances are that if Nicholas actually listened to his advice about the war, that would have saved him, his family and his dynasty. His advisors, who were supposedly so smart and politically savvy, all encouraged the war loudly, and he followed their advice. And look where that got him. Rasputin really nailed it, if ever N needed to listen to R and his wife, it was that one time.”

- Once more, Helen Azar

“Her ‘meddling’ in reality did nothing - the Tsar followed her advice on only a few occasions - it was analysed years ago on the Alexander Palace Forum and it turned out he followed her advice something only like only 6 or 7 times, and those times it was mostly with a good result. It was more the perception that she was meddling that caused damage to their reputation.”

- George Hawkins (co-author of a forthcoming book with Helen Azar on Grand Duchess Maria, also a translator of many Russian primary sources)

See? It was even talked about here years back!
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Alexandra Feodorovna / what would you say...?
« Last post by brnbg aka: liljones1968 on May 16, 2019, 10:01:52 PM »
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this is a "what if" question...

let's say you have 5 - 10 minutes sometime in 1913 to speak privately with the empress.   what would you say to her,
to try and persuade her onto a different path and, hopefully save her children, herself, her husband and the others?



PLEASE NOTE:   
i am NOT looking for an argument.   if one starts, no matter who it's between, i will simply remove this topic.
also
i am NOT saying she is the reason the family was murdered.  however, one must recognise that she was a contributing factor, especially given the influence she held with her husband.   
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Having Fun! / Re: Crossing fiction with Romanov Russia
« Last post by TimM on May 15, 2019, 06:01:15 PM »
More fitting to put his mind in Lenin or Stalin, IMO.
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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Help me!
« Last post by PAGE on May 15, 2019, 06:02:58 AM »
I ask for help to find a photograph.
I need the copyright for the reproduction of a photograph of Anastasia. This is the middle right (she does her homework). I do not know where it is kept. It is reproduced in The House of Special Purpose, 1975, p. 30) and belonged at the time to George Gibbes.

Are his records kept somewhere in England? Who can I contact?

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The Final Chapter / Re: One Hundred Years On
« Last post by The Test Card Girl on May 15, 2019, 03:00:15 AM »
People in the past don't know they are living in the past. They think they are living in the present. And they cannot see into the future. That is why decisions must be assessed on what they would have known. Not what we know 100 years into the future.
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