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Offline Kalafrana

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Re: Names, Patronymics, Nicknames and Name Days
« Reply #285 on: July 21, 2010, 03:35:16 AM »
'Yes... now the parents think about their childrens' feelings... '

Not sure I agree - look at the silly names celebrities give their unfortunate children!

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« Reply #286 on: July 21, 2010, 08:30:44 AM »
Very good one, Kalafrana ;)
I must agree with that

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« Reply #287 on: June 21, 2013, 06:51:03 PM »
Nicholas' daughters are often referred to as OTMA.
I have seen letters where they have signed their names in age order (that isn't unusual, my siblings and I do that), but is there a letter or card that they signed with the shortened acronym OTMA?
Or is this something "we" (as researchers and fans) have come up with as shorthand?

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Re: Names, Patronymics, Nicknames and Name Days
« Reply #288 on: June 21, 2013, 09:21:16 PM »
Nicholas' daughters are often referred to as OTMA.
I have seen letters where they have signed their names in age order (that isn't unusual, my siblings and I do that), but is there a letter or card that they signed with the shortened acronym OTMA?
Or is this something "we" (as researchers and fans) have come up with as shorthand?


Gilliard claimed in his memoir, "With the initials of their Christian names they had formed a composite Christian name, Otma, and under this common signature they frequently gave their presents or sent letters written by one of them on behalf of all." However, I've never once come across a photo of such a signature, or seen it used in any of the imperial family's letters or diaries. The closest I've come is a poem by the tutor Petrov, addressed "For O.T.M.A."
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« Reply #289 on: June 21, 2013, 09:41:22 PM »
Gilliard claimed in his memoir, "With the initials of their Christian names they had formed a composite Christian name, Otma, and under this common signature they frequently gave their presents or sent letters written by one of them on behalf of all." However, I've never once come across a photo of such a signature, or seen it used in any of the imperial family's letters or diaries. The closest I've come is a poem by the tutor Petrov, addressed "For O.T.M.A."
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« Reply #290 on: June 23, 2013, 01:08:33 AM »
The possible OTMA signature reminds me of the Club Alix often referred to in letters to her brother Ernst Ludwig. That was the AETA Club, for Alix, Ernst Ludwig, Toni Becker, and Alexander von Frankenburg und Ludwigsdorf. It would seem likely that the four girls got the OTMA idea from their mother.