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Offline Grace

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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« on: July 12, 2007, 04:55:36 PM »
I think she was counting on William to restore her Royal Highness title when he became King.

There doesn't seem to be evidence that she was counting on this at all or even wanting it.  Supposedly, William did tell her he'd restore her title when he became king but he was a child at the time...

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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2007, 04:12:41 AM »
Diana did not need a title.  As time went on even she realized this IMO.


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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2007, 05:45:35 AM »
Quite right TB! Although she was angry at the time, if her mother is to be believed.
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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2007, 12:31:06 PM »
Diana did not need a title.  As time went on even she realized this IMO.


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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2007, 12:47:29 PM »

Diana did not need a title.  As time went on even she realized this IMO.

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I don't think half the time Diana knew what she wanted !!!!!


I agree!  I think Diana was pursuring an emothional  security that does not exist.

IMO opinion she would have a better chance of receiving emotional security from Andrew.

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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2007, 02:38:28 PM »
The woman remained "Diana Princess of Wales" with the qualification of "Highness" until her death.  She was no longer a "Royal Highness" simply because she not married to one. I am sure she was aware of this and not concerned about it. Not something to loose sleep over.
 Sadly, she was a young, beautiful woman who had been betrayed by the men she thought she loved, and loved her in return.
 Happily, her legacies are her sons, and her ground-breaking awareness in very good causes.
 
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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2007, 10:54:16 AM »
I think the queen should have created a new title for Diana, after all she was the mother of the future king.  She might have styled  Her Serene Highness, Diana, Duchess of Althrop.  I am American so I don't know how that would work.  But the queen could do anything. 

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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2007, 10:59:29 AM »
The HRH status denoted a direct family connection to the Crown and is awarded or withdrawn purely at the will of the monarch.  There was simply no way that the Queen was going to let Diana continue to bear this appellation after the divorce.  Her concerns were that it was impossible to know where Diana's private life might take her.  The implications of the withdrawal of this were that even lesser members of the RF such as Princess Michael of Kent, whom Diana apparently wittily referred to as 'the U-boat Commander' would take precedence over her, and that she would even be required to curtsey to them.

Diana initially agreed to losing the title because bigger issues were at stake, the main one being money. Sarah Ferguson had been negotiating her divorce just as Diana approached hers and the example of the former was uppermost in Diana's mind, as she had been well and truly bested by the Windsors.

If Diana had retained the HRH status she would automatically have been included in state occasions and properly acknowledged as the mother of the future King; however her agreeing to relinquish the style of HRH and then deciding that she wanted to keep it was useful in her tactics to secure the matter that was of great importance - her divorce settlement.  Diana may have lost the style of HRH but she did win something far more important to her future life - financial independence.

In the long run, the loss of this style was no hinderance to her in the pursuit of the things that mattered to her.  To the people who met her and whose lives she touched, she was always a princess, to some even an angel.  Faced with the choice as to whether they would have preferred to meet Diana sans HRH and one of the many unappealing others who can boast to being styled thus, I think we can all imagine too well the choice that would be made..........
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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2007, 11:04:40 AM »
Prince Harry of Wales bears a resemblance to his uncle, Earl Spencer. 


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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2007, 01:33:42 PM »


Diana initially agreed to losing the title because bigger issues were at stake, the main one being money. Sarah Ferguson had been negotiating her divorce just as Diana approached hers and the example of the former was uppermost in Diana's mind, as she had been well and truly bested by the Windsors.
I have no doubt in my mind that Diana , seeing Fergies marriage difficulties sat back & watched the outcome with great interest.When it came to intrigue Diana used & abused anyone to her own ends....

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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2007, 01:37:07 PM »
Prince Harry of Wales bears a resemblance to his uncle, Earl Spencer. 


The current Lord Spencer bears an uncanny resemblance too to his late sister...he has her unstable emotional characteristics....and her hypocrisy..though the latter seems to be even worse...

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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2007, 03:42:56 PM »
So true ashdean - I think hypocrisy is his middle name!!!
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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2007, 06:46:59 AM »


Diana initially agreed to losing the title because bigger issues were at stake, the main one being money. Sarah Ferguson had been negotiating her divorce just as Diana approached hers and the example of the former was uppermost in Diana's mind, as she had been well and truly bested by the Windsors.
I have no doubt in my mind that Diana , seeing Fergies marriage difficulties sat back & watched the outcome with great interest.When it came to intrigue Diana used & abused anyone to her own ends....

I don't doubt that Diana did learn valuable lessons from the carnage that the Windsors created with the Duchess of York.

But, if we are talking intrigue, let's not forget that the Windsor court is more than adept at this particular sport, but that a match was well and truly met in the Princess and her media savvy skills.
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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 06:49:38 AM »
Prince Harry of Wales bears a resemblance to his uncle, Earl Spencer. 


The current Lord Spencer bears an uncanny resemblance too to his late sister...he has her unstable emotional characteristics....and her hypocrisy..though the latter seems to be even worse...

Too extreme.

In what sense do you consider the Princess to have been a hypocrite?
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Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2007, 10:44:53 AM »
No, there isn't evidence except for passages in books that are not cited from a credible source.  But it was my thought that perhaps it WAS something she was looking forward to as the mother of a King.