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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #135 on: August 30, 2007, 01:56:24 PM »


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Any ideas what bone that is in the lower right side of the muslin?  It is very oddly shaped.  It kinda looks like a doll made of sticks.

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #136 on: August 30, 2007, 02:09:12 PM »




Any ideas what bone that is in the lower right side of the muslin?  It is very oddly shaped.  It kinda looks like a doll made of sticks.

Mikey

It looks like part of the spine...

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #137 on: August 30, 2007, 02:29:04 PM »
Margarita you always post the most marvelous things!  Thank you so much.....

As a Physician what do you see as you look at these small fragments?  It is so very sad.

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #138 on: August 30, 2007, 03:06:58 PM »
Thank you so much for sharing with us this unexpected information!
It's so good to think that they will now be able to be in peace with their beloved familly and they will find a real grave, but in the same time it's so sad to loose any hope that they could have survive and live a better life. They were so innocent and pure, they deserve so so so much more better than a sad and painful dead and a burial in a forest.... :(
I can keep feeling sad about this lost hope...
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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #139 on: August 30, 2007, 03:34:07 PM »
I looked at this picture closer.  What do you think?



The blue fragment looks like a backbone.

The purple fragment looks like a pelvis (with tissue). (I thought this piece was 2 or three pieces until I looked at it closer)

The red fragment looks like a piece of skull.

The yellow fragmant looks like the upper portion of a long bone (femur?)

The green fragment loos like a nail.

The orange pieces don't look familiar.

What do you think?


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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #140 on: August 30, 2007, 05:29:05 PM »
I looked at this picture closer.  What do you think?



The blue fragment looks like a backbone.

The purple fragment looks like a pelvis (with tissue). (I thought this piece was 2 or three pieces until I looked at it closer)

The red fragment looks like a piece of skull.

The yellow fragmant looks like the upper portion of a long bone (femur?)

The green fragment loos like a nail.

The orange pieces don't look familiar.

What do you think?



I thought the red piece could be the illium of a pelvis or piece of a shoulderblade. Looks kinda big and flat to be part of a skull. Although it's hard to see on this picture. I have no idea about the scale of those bones.
And that purple piece doesn't look familiar at all. It looks so big and so odly shaped to be 1 piece. If I didn't know any better I'd say it's part of a tree's roots.

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #141 on: August 30, 2007, 05:42:52 PM »
The red piece could be a shoulderblade!

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #142 on: August 30, 2007, 05:56:54 PM »
Guys,

I am curious to know whether English is Eric's native language or not?
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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #143 on: August 30, 2007, 06:48:19 PM »
Guys,

I am curious to know whether English is Eric's native language or not?
If it's not, his English is quite good imo. Apart from the occasional spelling/verb conjugation error.
But does it matter? It wouldn't surprise me if more than half the AP members don't have English as their native language. It's only my 3rd language as well.
It could cause some misunderstandings more often though. People speaking or writing in another language could have more trouble with small nuances than 'natives' I guess.

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #144 on: August 30, 2007, 07:09:22 PM »
Good point and well taken :). Welcome to the forum.

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #145 on: August 30, 2007, 08:03:44 PM »
How did my English got into the discussion...??? Really strange. I hope my reasoning is least considered logical.  ;D

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #146 on: August 30, 2007, 09:17:56 PM »
Perhaps I have missed something, if so I apolgize. Other than Yurosvsky's note, what forensic evidence is there that the remains belong to Alexei and his sister?
Margarite,
Thank you for posting the pictures and the press releases.
Lexi
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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #147 on: August 30, 2007, 09:20:32 PM »
Lexi, there isn't yet.  The evidence right now is all circumstantial.  Good circumstantial, but circumstantial none the less.

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #148 on: August 30, 2007, 09:26:34 PM »
Perhaps I have missed something, if so I apolgize. Other than Yurosvsky's note, what forensic evidence is there that the remains belong to Alexei and his sister?
Margarite,
Thank you for posting the pictures and the press releases.
Lexi

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There is SUBSTANIAL genuine evidence, non circumstantial, and I repeat them here for about the sixth time in the forum:

So, here is what we know, for certain, pending the DNA results:

1. Two bodies have been found. Two bodies were missing.
2.  A male of the correct age and female of the correct age were found.
3.  These two bodies were found 70 metres from the mass burial site.
4.  Yurovsky accurately described the exact location where the bodies were found.
5.  Nagant bullets were found with the remains, which EXACTLY match the same Nagant bullets from the mass burial site.
6.  Pieces of japanese jars containing japanese made sulfuric acid were found which EXACTLY match the pieces of similar jars found in the                  mass burial site
7.  Yurovsky et al all describe the procuring and use of this acid during the attempted burning and burial process.
8.  Large amounts of burnt material and ash were found at the same layer as the remains.  This is further consistent with all known accounts.
9.  A piece of clothing (called a dress fragment) was found.  From "Last Act of a Tragedy":
"G.I. Sukhorukov, who was assigned to go help dispose of the corpses of the Royal Family the next morning. On April 3, 1928 his memoir:... "It was necessary to begin digging up the corpses (after the attempt to burn them the previous night)...the first thing we came across was the leg of the last Nicholas.  He was removed successfully, and then all the others. To be precise, it can be said that everybody was naked, except for the heir, who had on a sailor shirt but no trousers."

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Re: Formal Press Release from Ekaterinburg
« Reply #149 on: August 30, 2007, 09:43:29 PM »
Thank you FA. Perhaps I should have read the thread closer and would have found that information. However, I do appreciate that you took the time to respond to my question.
Lexi
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow ---- What a ride!!!"