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Re: Prince Henry/Prince Harry of Wales
« Reply #90 on: February 02, 2009, 04:08:02 AM »
Ohooo..I'm really so bad.I'll not do it again.  :(
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« Reply #91 on: February 03, 2009, 10:55:39 PM »
Personally, I suspect the breakup is a tactical move designed to let them both focus on their careers and importantly, for the general public to remember this mature move in a few years time.  I think its a good idea.  They both need to prove to themselves as much as to everyone else that there is more substance to them other than the youthful high jinks they are known for.  It also (possibly) puts off any criminal thinking to make a gain out of kidnapping the girlfriend of "the Spare" (after William, of course).
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« Reply #92 on: February 04, 2009, 05:49:20 AM »
And true love survives even when two persons are apart...

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« Reply #93 on: June 12, 2010, 04:46:12 PM »
This might have been brought up in a previous discussion, so forgive me if it has...

I was thinking today, if Prince Harry were to marry and have children while Elizabeth II is still alive, what would his children's styles be?

If my memory serves me correctly, Queen Victoria issued letters patent granting the style of Royal Highness to the children of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales. And I know that in 1917, George V issued letters patent only granting the style Royal Highness to male-line grandchildren of a monarch, but not great-grandchildren.

Obviously, if Harry were to have children after Charles came to the throne, they would bear the style of Royal Highness from birth since they would be male-line grandchildren of the reigning sovereign.

But if Prince Harry were to have children while his grandmother was still the reigning monarch, would his children bear the style of Royal Highness, or not? Because that would make them great-grandchildren of the reigning monarch, but they wouldn't be descended from the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.

If anyone can shed light on this just to satisfy my curiosity that would be appreciated.

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« Reply #94 on: June 12, 2010, 07:19:35 PM »
If he was married they would be princes and princesses as they would be born into the royal family and they would be termed His or her Royal Highness as they are in direct line from a reighning monarch.

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« Reply #95 on: June 13, 2010, 03:17:24 AM »
If born during the lifetime of Elizabeth II. children of both prince William and prince Henry wopuld bo Lord/Lady Windsor. Only when Charles succeedes the would become HRH Prince/Princess. This according to the Letters patent from 1917. Only the oldest son of Prince William would be HRH prince if born during the lifetime of Elizabeth II.
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« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2010, 01:34:51 AM »
Well subsequent to Letters Patent 1917, there modifications to the rules made in Letters Patent 1936, 1948 and 1961 where the rules changed in terms of what the Sovereign at the time wanted.  So it is pretty well up to the sovereign at the time.  I am pretty sure that if Prince Harry married and had children, considering his proximity to the throne, I don't think that Queen Elizabeth would refrain from changing the Letters patent to include his children as HRH instead of HH.

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« Reply #97 on: June 14, 2010, 02:11:07 AM »
True, it is ultimately up to the monarch who receives the style of Royal Highness, so I imagine she would grant Harry's children that honor.

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« Reply #98 on: June 14, 2010, 02:26:46 AM »
True, it is ultimately up to the monarch who receives the style of Royal Highness.

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« Reply #99 on: June 14, 2010, 07:54:01 AM »
I am pretty sure that if Prince Harry married and had children, considering his proximity to the throne, I don't think that Queen Elizabeth would refrain from changing the Letters patent to include his children as HRH instead of HH.

Of course none of us know if The Queen would issue special Letters Patent and bestow an early grant of HRH on Harry's children.  However, if she takes no action, they would NOT be HH, because under the 1917 Letters Patent, HH is no longer used for anybody in Britain.  Instead they would be Lord X Windsor / Lady Y Windsor.  Of course, if Harry were granted a dukedom upon marriage, an eldest son would bear his subsidiary title by courtesy.

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« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2010, 11:56:18 AM »
Under the 1917 Letters patent - only the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales is entitled to the HRH, Prince of Great Britain etc. The other male line great grandchildren of a reigning sovereign would be styled Lord/Lady ..... Windsor (or Mountbatten-Windsor as descendants of the Queen with no Royal Style).
However if William and Harry's children are borne during the reign of their grandfather - they would as male line grandchildren of a sovereign be entitled to the HRH.
I suspect that on William's marriage and possibly on Harry's if it happens during the Queen's lifetime she will issue patents stating that their children will be HRH to avoid numerous changes of style during their lifetime.


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Re: Prince Henry/Prince Harry of Wales
« Reply #101 on: June 28, 2010, 03:29:05 PM »
Eh, I think I like Harry. :) Sure, maybe he's irreverent sometimes (ok, maybe a lot of times LOL) but one can't help what family or situation they're born into. He seems to have a feisty and mischievious personality - but most of all he seems to have oomph and nerve. I can respect that. It doesn't appear to me there is any evil intent behind what he does at times, just youthful vim and vinegar like a lot of kids. (yes, I'm old. LOL) He seems to step up when he needs to.

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« Reply #102 on: July 01, 2010, 11:11:53 PM »
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Re: Prince Henry/Prince Harry of Wales
« Reply #104 on: July 14, 2010, 04:40:30 AM »
He's obviously very much at ease with dogs.

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