The Imperial Children's Remains Discovered FAQs. Please Read!

I will remind users that this particular thread is for the publication of updated information about the discoveries. this thread is NOT for back and forth comments and discussion about the discoveries or the status. There are like five other threads on the subject for that type of discussion. Thanks.

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[At Peter Sarandinaki's request]

At Peter Sarandinaki's request:

UPDATE on the DNA studies of the Russian Royal Family Remains, May 1, 2008

The SEARCH Foundation, Inc. has been the coordinator of the DNA validation process for the recently-discovered remains of two possible members of the Romanoff family. 

Edward Rossel, Governor of the Ural Region of Russia, has announced his belief that the two sets of remains recently discovered on the Koptiaki Road north of Yekaterinburg are those of the Tsarevich Alexis and the Grand Duchess Maria.

Much as the SEARCH Foundation fervently wishes for this result to be proven conclusively, "we can't confirm [these results] until all the independent labs have completed testing" said Captain Peter Sarandinaki, Director of the SEARCH Foundation.

Rigorous scientific research is necessary because, as he continued, "some of [these bones] were burnt ... and work is still being done...We can't confirm [these results] until all the independent labs have completed testing." Scientific evaluation is being conducted by three world-class independent laboratories:  the US Army DNA lab in Rockville, Md., the University of Innsbruck DNA Laboratory, Austria and the Russian DNA laboratory in Moscow with a facility also at University of Massachusetts.

Captain Sarandinaki concluded that "Once these three laboratories complete their DNA testing and their results are certified by Dr. Peter Gill, from Great Britain, who did the initial DNA studies on the first set of remains, an official announcement as to the scientific findings will be made by the Most Senior Investigator for Special Cases, Vladimir Solovyev."

Captain Peter Sarandinaki,

Director of the SEARCH Foundation, Inc.

See: http://www.searchfoundationinc.org/New-Press-Release.html

Work is expected to be completed sometime in June.


Margarita Nelipa on behalf of Peter Sarandinaki

A couple of news segments, the first with an interview with Evgeny Rogaev.  A commercial will play first, then it will play the news segment. If you click on the screen after the commercial it will restart the commercial (FYI).

Of note, not all of the information in the first segment iis correct by the commentator, but the interview is interesting.

http://www.necn.com/Boston/New-England/Russian-murder-mystery-solved-at-Umass/1209597185.html

http://www.necn.com/Boston/World/Truth-of-the-bones-may-have-surfaced-/1209675506.html#

[Tests confirm belonging of Yekaterinburg remains to royal family]

Tuesday 24 June, 2008 (U.S time)

At Peter Sarandinaki's request:

See: http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=12807470&PageNum=0

Tests confirm belonging of Yekaterinburg remains to royal family

MOSCOW, June 24 (Itar-Tass) -- A number of tests have confirmed that human remains found near Yekaterinburg last July might belong to Crown Prince Alexy and his sister, Grand Duchess Maria, Russian Prosecutor General’s Office Investigation Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin told Itar-Tass.

Detectives are analyzing results of the examinations done at laboratories of Russia, the United States and Austria and will post them in the second half of July, he said.

“The Sverdlovsk regional forensic bureau led by N. Nevolin conducted identification tests with the assistance of leading experts,” Markin said. “Three independent teams of experts examined remains, which presumably belong to Emperor Nicholas II and Empress Alexandra Fyodorovna, and bone fragments from the grave unearthed in 2007,” he said.

“Genetic tests were made by the chief of the laboratory chief of the Russian Academy of Sciences’ Vavilov Genetics Institute and the DNA laboratory of the U.S. Massachusetts University Prof. Rogayev [Doctor of Biology]. He conducted unique tests on the remains found in 2007 from November 2007 through May 2008,” Markin said.

“In addition, genetic tests were made at the DNA laboratory of the U.S. Armed Forces [led by Michael Cobble] with the assistance of experts from the Sverdlovsk regional forensic bureau T. Tsitovich and N. Bandurenko, as well as at the DNA laboratory of the Innsbruck Forensic Institute [Austria] with the assistance of Yekaterinburg experts Y. Vylegzhanina and Y. Trynova in May 2008,” he said.

“All the aforesaid researchers found male and female DNA and made mitochondrial and nuclear DNA tests,” Markin said.

“Russian State Archives Director Dr. Mironenko is supervising a historical examination. His team is made up of leading historians and archivists. This far, the examination shows that the remains belong to the Russian royal family,” he said.

“All the historical documents related to the execution and the burial of the royal family have been studied. Neither Soviet documents nor files of N. Sokolov [a representative of the White Movement who investigated the royal family’s execution] contradict the theory that bodies of the royal family members and servants were buried at the 184th kilometer,” Markin said.

“Detectives considered the possibility that the bodies might have belonged to victims of political repressions of 1917-1950s or criminal offenses. No confirmation was found. There were no burials of political repression victims in that area. There was no simultaneous disappearance of a boy and a girl [of that age] in that area over the past 40 years either,” he said.

I just learned that a new TV special called "Finding Anastasia" about the tests results will air July 22

Latest News at http://tsarevichalexei.bravehost.com

Found this posted on the Royal Forums:

RIA Novosti - Russia - Urals remains belong to last tsar's children - DNA test

Interfax-Religion

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http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=4942

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2304461/Executed-Russian-prince-Alexei's-bones-to-be-put-on-display.html

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Russia-Remembers-The-Romanovs-Ninety-Years-On/Article/200807315038290?f=rss


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080716/wl_nm/russia_tsar_remains_dc_1


http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=12873896&PageNum=0

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080716/114083337.html


http://www.interfax.com/3/411474/news.aspx

By the way S.E.A.R.C.H. has announced 26 Nov. 2008:

>>Official DNA results will be announced on December 5, 2008 from Ekaterinburg.

Dr. Michael Coble, Chief Scientist of the U.S. Army DNA Laboratory will present results of the DNA tests done on the Romanov family remains by his laboratory. << http://www.searchfoundationinc.org/New-Press-Release.html

My hopes are very simple: I'd like to see the four markers which prove there are four individual grand duchesses.

AGRBear

Bear,  I actually already have been made privy to the results, but asked not to reveal them.  What I CAN tell you is that there will be an answer to your question. I suspect you can already guess the answer.  The previous announcements still stand as correct.

The following is not giving away any secrets, however.  There will never be a specific identification of which daughter was Maria and which was Anastasia, and which one was in which grave site.  Without knowing the specific DNA of one, we can't determine who was who. 

Itar-Tass:
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13346557&PageNum=0

>>[in part]....YEKATERINBURG, December 5 (Itar-Tass) --Experts of the US DNA Identification Laboratory have announced that the remains removed from a first burial site found near Yekaterinburg belong to the family of the Russian last tsar, Nicholas II. They are identical 100 percent, said a senior expert of the identification department of the US DNA Laboratory.<<

No additional information information mentioned about the two remains found in the two pits in July of 07, so,  no answers to my questions as of the 5th of Dec. 2008.

AGRBear

Itar-Tass:
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13346557&PageNum=0

>>[in part]....YEKATERINBURG, December 5 (Itar-Tass) --Experts of the US DNA Identification Laboratory have announced that the remains removed from a first burial site found near Yekaterinburg belong to the family of the Russian last tsar, Nicholas II. They are identical 100 percent, said a senior expert of the identification department of the US DNA Laboratory.<<

No additional information information mentioned about the two remains found in the two pits in July of 07, so,  no answers to my questions as of the 5th of Dec. 2008.

AGRBear

Bear - it appears that there is a conference going on in Ekaterinburg that began last week - I don't know when it ends, but you are essentially correct - little of substance has appeared in the press that would be the definite proof we've been told there will be.