Author Topic: Non Romanov and more obscure royal pretenders/impostors/claimants...  (Read 80102 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline her daughter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
    • View Profile
Re: Non Romanov and more obscure royal pretenders/impostors/claimants...
« Reply #135 on: January 30, 2015, 08:39:35 PM »
The pages below were written by my grandfather, Victor, for my cousin Robert, who is the son of my mother's eldest sister Victoria.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 08:49:57 PM by her daughter »

Offline her daughter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
    • View Profile
Re: Non Romanov and more obscure royal pretenders/impostors/claimants...
« Reply #136 on: January 30, 2015, 09:07:13 PM »
Photos of Victor, including a boyhood painting:
[imghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10550911_10203769268928738_3791726454709257991_n.jpg?oh=3681fd8e10b3756904d9795cbb395408&oe=55598A17&__gda__=1431948648_b18c7f1f38c635404697f20d7bbd3ae6]http://[/img]
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 09:09:36 PM by her daughter »

Offline Превед

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 960
  • Мой Великий Север
    • View Profile
    • Type Russian Without a Keyboard
Re: Non Romanov and more obscure royal pretenders/impostors/claimants...
« Reply #137 on: January 31, 2015, 05:42:06 PM »
Jeannette was my mother. The funeral home made a typo when either taking the information from me or releasing it to the newspaper. It was supposed to have read Alexander III.

According to the Russian Wikipedia, the painter Vasily Vasilyevich Vereshchagin can't have been the (legitimate) uncle of Maria Alexandrovna Prokofieff (née Vereshchagina?), as the painter's brother, Lieutenant-General Alexander Vasilyevich Vereshchagin, only had three children called Olga, Vladimir and Vasiliy. Olga Alexandrovna Vereshchagina married General Staff officer Anatoly Fyodorovich Barsov. See Википедия: Верещагин, Александр Васильевич

Further, who are these Count and Countess Surette? There doesn't seem to have been any such title. The only claim to fame for the name Surette is the 18th-century Acadian resistance leader called Pierre II Surette.
Березы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и березы», 1843 / 1856)

Offline Превед

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 960
  • Мой Великий Север
    • View Profile
    • Type Russian Without a Keyboard
Re: Non Romanov and more obscure royal pretenders/impostors/claimants...
« Reply #138 on: February 01, 2015, 12:04:01 PM »
The pages below were written by my grandfather, Victor, for my cousin Robert, who is the son of my mother's eldest sister Victoria.

Further proof that this was not written by a member of the Russian upper-class born in 1890, who by default would know French well:

He writes of himself that he was "nee Romanoff". A Francophone Russian noble would know, unless he was dyslectic, that it's "née" for women and "né" for men.
A Francophone Russian would probably also write "Mulhouse", not use the German name Mühlhausen (and manage to misspell it as Mulhausen too!).

"Vereschagin" is also misspelled. The correct transliteration is "Vereshchagin. It also strikes me as a bit odd that somebody would include the patronyme (Alexandrovna), but not give the surname (especially the maiden name) in the female form: Vereshchagina.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 12:15:19 PM by Превед »
Березы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и березы», 1843 / 1856)

Offline TimM

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1842
    • View Profile
    • Rex and Hannah Chronicles Wikia
Re: Non Romanov and more obscure royal pretenders/impostors/claimants...
« Reply #139 on: February 20, 2015, 06:17:05 PM »
I guess there will always be people saying that they are related to this or that royal personage.

Offline Kitt

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 44
    • View Profile
Re: Non Romanov and more obscure royal pretenders/impostors/claimants...
« Reply #140 on: February 09, 2016, 01:32:22 PM »
I am reading this almost a decade later.  This has go to be some of the funniest stuff discussed on this forum, especially the "winks and grins".  Not to say any of us is "nuts", but intellectual curiosity can be quite interesting when it goes in obscure directions.  All the best,