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No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« on: September 25, 2007, 05:21:09 PM »
Not her best picture (see link)...

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/no-red-flags-just-red-carpets-for-grand-duchess/2007/09/24/1190486225419.html

Carolyn Webb
September 25, 2007

THE Russian Government does not look like restoring its monarchy any time soon, but one member of the deposed Romanov dynasty is walking and talking like a monarch.

Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna breezed regally through Melbourne yesterday, leading an entourage of more than 20.

The group included a priest, a Russian embassy first secretary and a lady-in-waiting. Then there was an official photographer, a publicist, a handful of local and Russian monarchists and a dozen burly Russian men in black suits.

There was no adoring crowd in sight, nor even a communist objector. But her visit, to mark 200 years of Russian settlement in Australia, is significant in the quest to create a new role for her family. She is touring with the blessing of the Australian and Russian governments last Tuesday the Russian embassy in Canberra held a reception for her.

In Melbourne, she is staying at Government House and meeting all the right people.

Grand Duchess Maria's grandfather's cousin was Tsar Nicholas II, who was slaughtered with his wife and five children by the Bolsheviks in 1918. The surviving Romanovs fled into exile, and Grand Duchess Maria grew up in Spain.

She is regarded by many monarchists as the head of the Russian imperial family. Educated at Oxford, she speaks six languages, including perfect English, is divorced and has a son, Grand Duke Georgy Mikhailovich.

The first time she set foot in Russia was in 1992 for the funeral of her father, Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich, in St Petersburg's St Isaac's Cathedral. It was Russia's first royal funeral service in seven decades. The grand duchess has since returned to Russia about 50 times as relations with the Government thaw. The last time a Russian royal came to Australia was more than a century ago. In 1901, her great uncle, Grand Duke Alexander, attended the opening of Federal Parliament in Melbourne's Exhibition Building.

The duchess seems to be squeezing 100 years' worth of functions into her seven-day Australian visit. Yesterday, Melbourne city councillor Fiona Snedden held a welcoming morning tea in the Town Hall.

A five-car motorcade then drove to Melbourne Cemetery, to pay homage at the restored grave of Alexis Poutiata, who in 1893 was the first imperial Russian consul.

It was then on to inspect the new Russian Orthodox Cathedral in Brunswick, which volunteers have spent 15 years building, with gold plated spires and dazzling icons.

The grand duchess said the monarchy restoration question was something "the Russian people will have to decide for themselves". But she said a monarchy would represent them properly, would be a symbol of stable unity, and a referee at times of crisis. "I do not deal with politics," she said. "My role is purely to pass on to the Russian people the traditions, to bring them back to Russia.

"And being, a little bit, the voice of my people, saying what I think should be done, and helping them morally, to have faith in their future. I think it's a country that for a few years has lost faith and didn't know exactly where to go."

Today, at the Shrine of Remembrance at 11am, the duchess will dedicate a plaque to commemorate the 1000 Russians who fought for Australia in World War I.

She will lunch with Lady Southey at the Myer mansion in Toorak and this afternoon will visit the Russian Welfare Centre in Dandenong.

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Re: No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 01:48:00 AM »
I think its wonderful after this long time... :)

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Re: No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 12:17:17 PM »
Mari, I echo your sentiments. It is indeed, lovely !

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Re: No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2007, 03:04:13 AM »
Hardly anyone in Australia was aware that this pretender had arrived in the country.




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Re: No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2007, 04:52:27 AM »
Hello Belochka,

I do not know how publicized her HIH's visit was, but the Australian government certainly treated it with all the dignity of a royal visit with lunches at Sydney town hall with the Lord mayor, staying at Government House in canberra and melbourne. I think the Russian community was also aware. Either way it was a good experience to hear God Save the Tsar being played, and toasting the Romanovs. We do not see alot of that here in Australia, so I enjoyed the experience. (Just made me even more anxious to head to Petersburg this Christmas :)
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2007, 12:39:39 AM »
The lady was a guest of the the Russian Monarchist Society of Australia. It was a private visit.

SBS and the ABC in Canberra ignored her unofficial visit, although I stand to be corrected if they had reported her visit to the capital.

In Canberra she was escorted by the Russian Embassy at the few venues that she visited. She dined as the guest of Ambassador A. V. Blohin and the First secretary, A. A. Kozhin during her one night stopover.

The Australian Governor-General does not mention her visit.

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Re: No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2007, 09:30:53 AM »
Well she has no official position. Why would the Governor-General spend any time with her? She is just a visiting tourist.

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2007, 07:10:17 PM »
Hello Belochka,

I do not know how publicized her HIH's visit was, but the Australian government certainly treated it with all the dignity of a royal visit ... staying at Government House in canberra ...

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Well she has no official position. Why would the Governor-General spend any time with her? She is just a visiting tourist.

That was exactly my point to Brett. The pretender was not invited by the Australian Government as a representative of a Head of State. She has no officially recognized "State" to preside over. Thus it cannot be considered a "royal visit" at all.

The Governor-General did not extend to her a formal State dinner which is customary had she had held any status other than being a tourist from Madrid with a political agenda.

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Re: No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2007, 11:14:04 PM »
I wonder whether Elizabeth II has ever received her for tea in a private capacity?

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 05:14:29 AM »
hey Guys,
Did not want to buy into the succession debate, her status or not, ;D thier are plenty of forums for that, I was just saying that it was great to see the Imperial standard, and hear God Save the Tsar..........you do not get that everyday here in Sydney.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 11:34:26 PM »
I wonder whether Elizabeth II has ever received her for tea in a private capacity?

Hmm, a cup of Russian blend black tea perhaps?


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Re: No red flags, just red carpets, for grand duchess
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 07:50:58 PM »
Russian Caravan tea is my favourite. It is so soothing.

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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2007, 02:39:22 AM »
hey Guys,
Did not want to buy into the succession debate, her status or not, ;D thier are plenty of forums for that, I was just saying that it was great to see the Imperial standard, and hear God Save the Tsar..........you do not get that everyday here in Sydney.
Brett

Hi Brett,

I too react when I hear "God Save the Tsar" and appreciate the sight of the Russian Imperial Standard. However for the pretender to use these Imperial symbols of the past is quite inappropriate today whether it be in downtown Sydney, Madrid or in Moscow.

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2007, 04:16:44 AM »
I agree totally with you Margarita. It is inappropriate to display symbols and anthems from an earlier time in association with a pretender. Whatever one thinks of Maria, she is not a representative of any country and has no official position anywhere. She is a descendant of the Romanov Tsar Alexander II.