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Naslednik Norvezhskiy

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Re: Pronounciation
« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2010, 09:42:47 PM »
Thanks, Svetabel.

so that would be row-ma-no-va or ro-man-off with a v-a which ro-man-off-a (only the off is like ovv)? still can't seem to grasp it perhaps

I urge you and all others to use the International Phonetic Alphabet in order to escape the linguistic prison which the English sound system is.

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Re: Pronounciation
« Reply #226 on: April 17, 2010, 10:33:02 PM »
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Actually, in German, Hesse is pronounced "Hess'-uh" stress on first syllable.
In German it's called Hessen with an N !

But in Hessian it's Hesse, pronounced [ˈhɛsɛ] :-)
In Standard German it's of course [ˈhɛsən].

It's the same with another Grand Duchy: Bade in Alemannic and Baden in Standard German.
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Re: Pronounciation
« Reply #227 on: April 20, 2010, 11:51:11 AM »
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how Dnieper is pronounced?  Is the D silent?
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« Reply #228 on: April 20, 2010, 01:54:21 PM »
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how Dnieper is pronounced?  Is the D silent?
Yes, in the English pronunciation:
English Dnieper, pronounced /ˈniːpər/
Russian: Днепр, Dnepr, pronounced [dnʲɛpr]
Belarusian: Дняпро, Dniapro, pronounced [dnʲaˈpro]
Ukrainian: Днiпро, Dnipro, pronounced [dnʲiˈpro]

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Re: Pronounciation
« Reply #229 on: April 20, 2010, 04:23:35 PM »
Thanks for the info :)
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Re: Pronounciation
« Reply #230 on: April 21, 2010, 01:42:34 PM »
So I'm guessing we'd say it like "nepper" or "nipper"?
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« Reply #231 on: April 21, 2010, 03:23:15 PM »
So I'm guessing we'd say it like "nepper" or "nipper"?

No, /ˈniːpər/ = Neeper. A colon after a vowel ([i:]) indicates a long vowel in phonetic script.

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« Reply #232 on: May 01, 2010, 02:29:17 AM »
What about Gottorp?  Short o?  Long o?

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« Reply #233 on: May 01, 2010, 05:03:53 PM »
What about Gottorp?  Short o?  Long o?

It's ['gɔtɔʁp]; so yes, short o.

Note that "Gottorp" is the native Low German and Danish form (used in most foreign languages), in standard High German it's "Gottorf".
And that contrary to what many English-speakers would presume, I guess, is the fact that the location of Gottorp Castle, the town of Schleswig / Sleswig / Slesvig, is pronounced with a long /e:/ in both High German, Low German and Danish. 

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Re: Pronounciation
« Reply #234 on: May 01, 2010, 07:03:55 PM »
I'm living near Schleswig and I also pronounce it "Gottorf" with a short o.

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« Reply #235 on: May 01, 2010, 09:02:09 PM »
Coty, as in the perfumes, is it pronounced (K-ah-tt-ee) or (K-oh-tt-ee)?

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« Reply #236 on: May 02, 2010, 10:53:32 AM »
I would say it's "K-oh-tt-ee" with a short "oh".

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« Reply #237 on: May 02, 2010, 11:01:59 AM »
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« Reply #238 on: May 02, 2010, 11:34:07 AM »
I'm living near Schleswig and I also pronounce it "Gottorf" with a short o.

Funny that you who live there say Gottorf, while all we foreigners say Gottorp!

In phonectic script Coty is [kɔti]. So the o is the same as in Gottorp.

In English, vowel length is very important, and syllabic stress is very distinctive in both English and Russian. French has very little of that, so both vowels and syllables are pronounced equally evenly.

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« Reply #239 on: May 02, 2010, 01:00:12 PM »
And once again, how is 'Velikiy Knyaz' pronounced?

In phonetic script: [vʲɪˈlʲikʲij knjaz]