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« on: January 16, 2008, 04:50:39 PM »
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I was wondering if anyone has any current photos (or even drawings) of "The Elizabeth Oak" at Hatfield Palace?  I found this postcard from the late 19th century, but couldn't locate any current pictures...



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« on: January 16, 2008, 08:03:33 PM »
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I wonder whether it still in fact exists? I can remember watching a program where Prince Philip discussed the fact that there were old,diseased and dead oaks from the Georgian period in Windsor Great Park that needed to be removed and the area replanted. When I was at Windsor many such trees had been removed and the avenue replanted. This was along the Long Walk. Perhaps the tree is gone at Hatfield.
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« on: January 16, 2008, 08:21:16 PM »
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The tree still stood at Hatfield when I was there in Sept. 2003.  It was my one unfulfilled quest on that trip.

I could not find it, though, as they had a regional livestock show running that day.  What are the odds?  There were tents set up all over the place. Prize winning pigs and cows sporting award ribbons abounded.  And the tree was there, somwhere....
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« on: January 17, 2008, 08:02:31 AM »
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The tree still stood at Hatfield when I was there in Sept. 2003.  It was my one unfulfilled quest on that trip.

I could not find it, though, as they had a regional livestock show running that day.  What are the odds?  There were tents set up all over the place. Prize winning pigs and cows sporting award ribbons abounded.  And the tree was there, somwhere....

Oh what a shame! Yes, I understand the tree still exists today, but I am surprised that there aren't any photos of it on the web since it's a fairly legendary landmark.

I am wondering if they filmed on location the scene in Glenda Jackson's Elizabeth R and if the tree they used there was the tree... Anyone know?
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« on: January 17, 2008, 04:42:29 PM »
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Have seen the series and it would not appear to be so. The tree they featured looked very healthy and not so old.
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« on: January 17, 2008, 06:55:46 PM »
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Oak trees live very long lives and they don't necessarily look that old even when they are... I've seen an oak tree which was something like 400 years old and it looked healthy and not-so-old. So I'm not sure if we can really judge by that. Having said that, of course it doesn't mean the tree in the series is the tree, but I'm wondering if the scenes at Hatfield were shot on location, does anyone know?
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« on: January 18, 2008, 07:52:31 AM »
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Wikipedia had this to say about the films that have been made at Hatfield House

Many interior scenes of the Wayne Manor in the 1989 film Batman and the 1992 sequel Batman Returns were shot at Hatfield House.[1]
The outside scenes of the Lara Croft movies with Angelina Jolie were shot at Hatfield House.
It appears in The New World (2005) with Colin Farrell.
The house appears in major scenes in the film The Golden Age, released in 2007 as a sequel to Elizabeth starring Cate Blanchett and Geoffrey Rush.
Hatfield House was used to portray Chartley Hall, where Mary Queen of Scots, played by Samantha Morton, was kept captive before her execution, in the film The Golden Age.
The most important aspect in all the movies seems to be the very British atmosphere and architecture, such as the huge size of the manor and its park.

Other films include, "Cromwell" with Alec Guinness, west side of the house, "The Avengers" with Sean Connery over looking the maze, and "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" with Johnny Depp

Also, Hatfield House website infers that the Tree is still on the Grounds.
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« on: January 18, 2008, 07:55:03 AM »
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Thanks! It doesn't mention Elizabeth R?
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« on: January 18, 2008, 02:11:59 PM »
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If memory serves, Hatfield House was not used for that scene in Elizabeth R.  I watched it after I had visited Hatfield to see if was filmed there and I'm pretty sure it was not.  I'll recheck it if I have a chance this weekend.
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« on: January 18, 2008, 02:39:02 PM »
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Ok, thanks! I can't tell since I have never been there.
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« on: January 19, 2008, 10:32:43 AM »
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Just rewatched the end of "The Lion's Cub" episode of Elizabeth R.  Really doesn't look like Hatfield, new palace or old.  Unfortunately, the commentary track by Alison Weir doesn't discuss the location at the point eiither.

Guess we need to go and confirm it for ourselves! Wink
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« on: March 13, 2008, 02:05:28 PM »
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Scroll down past the numbers in blue and past the numbers in red.  Just beneath a picture of a tree, you will see "The red and blue walks converge at the Queen Elizabeth Oak".  Read item number 10 to discover the answer.



http://www.hatfield-house.co.uk/HGP.asp?S=14&V=1&P=26
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« on: March 16, 2008, 06:58:07 AM »
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Scroll down past the numbers in blue and past the numbers in red.  Just beneath a picture of a tree, you will see "The red and blue walks converge at the Queen Elizabeth Oak".  Read item number 10 to discover the answer.



http://www.hatfield-house.co.uk/HGP.asp?S=14&V=1&P=26

Thanks, EE, sounds like the tree does still stand. I wonder why no one has a photo! I don't think the tree in the photo on the website is it....
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« on: March 17, 2008, 08:59:40 AM »
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In the interest of clearing this up, from the Hatfield House site:

 "10: This is said to be the place where Queen Elizabeth 1 learned of her accession to the throne of England in 1558. Queen Elizabeth 11 planted this oak in 1985 to replace the original. "




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