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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2008, 01:27:22 AM »
1932: Princess Isabelle of France
- Duke Jean de Guise (her paternal grandfather)
- Princess Elisabeth of Orleans-Braganza (her maternal granmother)      Godparents of the two Sisters of the Count of Paris with a link for the other Siblings and     

                                                                                                  their godparents.
1938: Princess Anne of France
- Duke of Aosta (husband of her paternal aunt)
- Countess Anna Dobrzensky (1st cousin of her mother)

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f161/godparents-royals-1460.html

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2008, 11:11:33 AM »
Interesting, but I talked sisters of the late Count of Paris, Henri born in 1908, son of Jean and Isabelle, Duke and Duchess of Guise, rather than the current one...
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2008, 03:33:20 PM »
Francoise was very attractive and was a candidate for Boris of Bulgaria in 1928, eventually accepting the wealthy widower Pr Christopher. Isabelle made a private marriage to Ct Bruno who was descended from 8 Duc d'Harcourt. In widowhood she  refused Alfonso of The Two Sicilies in 1936, and married Pr Pierre descened from 3 Pr Murat, (Sadly her grand dughter Laure  was the lover of that cad Sir James Goldsmith and bore him two natural children). Helene was to marry the grand son of king Amadeo of Spain. She was a noted beauty and was arrested and sent to a concentration camp by the Nazi's. Her husband 3 Duke of Aosta was Viceroy of Ethiopia and Govenor General of Italian East Africa

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2008, 08:58:38 AM »
Thank you for these valuable information.

Born in 1902, Princess Françoise de France, second daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Guise, aroused the interest of the young King Alexander Ier of Yugoslavia. He asked her hand that she refused.

Good, generous, very human, she had no other ambition than to cherish and to the happiness of his family.
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2008, 09:58:46 AM »
apparently he later propose to her handicapped cousin Sophie Vendome

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2008, 10:00:54 AM »
SORRY...wrong Alexander. These Serbian Kings eh?

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2008, 11:29:22 AM »
No, as a matter of fact it was the future king Alexander I who is supposed to have proposed to Sophie Vendôme.
Wasn't he aware of her handicap ?

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2008, 03:11:23 PM »
No, as a matter of fact it was the future king Alexander I who is supposed to have proposed to Sophie Vendôme.
Wasn't he aware of her handicap ?
He must have been as it was clear that Princess Sophie developped convulsions during the birth, which caused retardation.

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2008, 08:20:41 AM »
Prince Henri, futur Count of Paris, during the Great War, with his three young sisters Isabelle, Françoise and Anne :


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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2008, 09:19:29 PM »
Princess Anne of Orléans, Duchess of Aosta (5 August 1906, Nouvion-en-Thiérache, France - 19 March 1986, Sorrento, Italy). The daughter of Jean of Orléans, duke of Guise and princess Isabelle of Orléans. She married at Napoli, Italy, on 5 November 1927, her cousin Amedeo, 3rd Duke of Aosta (1898-1942) and had two daughters:

    * Margherita Isabella Maria Vittoria Emanuela Elena Gennara (born April 7, 1930). She married on 28/29 December 1953 HI & RH Archduke Robert, styled Archduke of Austria-Este (1915 - 1996), second son of the last Austrian emperor Karl I, and has issue three sons and two daughters.
    * Maria Cristina Giusta Elena Giovanna (born 10 September 1933 at Miramar), who married on January 29, 1967 HRH Prince Casimiro of House of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, descended from Spanish princes (of the house of Bourbon or Bourbon) ruling in Sicily, and has issue two sons and two daughters.

 Princess Anne Hélène Marie (1906-86)

a little more information:

Princess Anne Hélène Marie was born at Château Nouvion-en-Thiérache in 1906. She died at Capo di Sorrento, Naples in 1986. She was a Dame Star Cross, Dame Hon & Dev Sov Mil Order of Malta, Gd Cross Constantinian Order of Saint George, Gd Cross Saint Maurice & Lazarus. She marrie at Naples on November 5, 1927 to Prince Amedeo of Savoy, 3rd Duke of Aosta, sometime Viceroy of Ethiopia (1898-1941). He died at Nairobi, Kenya March 3 1941 during World War II. The British retook Ethiopia from the Italians.

http://histclo.com/royal/fra/orl/fbo-cphen.htm

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2008, 05:08:44 PM »
do you know where in Naples they married?

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2008, 01:17:43 PM »

Princess Françoise born in 1902.

She spoused Prince Christophe of Greece in 1928 and had a only son, Michel born in 1939.
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2008, 05:30:53 PM »
The only articles on the Wedding of  Princess Anne of Orleans in 1927 that I can find are these two unfortunately. Perhaps someone else.....


http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30617F63C5D167A93C4A9178AD95F438285F9


http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00F10F8345B12738DDDAD0894D9415B878EF1D3

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2008, 04:14:52 AM »
Just found details in "Mon Album" church St Francis de Paule, neo classical church opposite the Royal Palace

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2008, 11:09:15 AM »
Princess Françoise in evening dress :


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