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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2008, 08:33:57 PM »
 Princess Isabelle Françoise Hélène Marie (1900-83)

Princess Isabelle Françoise Hélène Marie was born at Paris in 1. She died at Louveciennes in 1983. Her first marriage was at Le Chesnay, Yvelines Sptember 12 (civil) and September 15 (religious), 1923 to Bruno, Count of Harcourt, of the Dukes of Harcourt (1899-1930). Her second marriage was at Jouy-en-Josas, Yvelines July 12,1934, to Prince Pierre Murat (1900-48).

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the daughter of Jean d'Orléans, duc de Guise (1874-1940), Orleanist pretender to the French throne, and his wife Princess Isabelle d'Orléans.

She married at Le Chesnay, on 12 september 1903, French aristocrat Bruno, Count of Harcourt (1899-1930), son of Count Eugene of Harcourt and Armande of Pierre de Bernis. Bruno was an automobile racer and he died on a practice for the Moroccan Grand Prix.

They had four children:

    * Bernard d'Harcourt, Count of Harcourt (1925-1958).
    * Gilone d'Harcourt (1927), who married Antoine of Dreux-Brézé.
    * Isabelle d'Harcourt (1927-1993), who married prince Louis Murat.
    * Monique d'Harcourt (1929).

As a widow, Isabelle remarried Prince Pierre Murat (1900-1948) in 1934, at Jouy-en-Josas.


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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2008, 12:48:38 PM »
Princesse Isabelle de France (1900-1983) :



Eldest daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Guise, she was already married and a mother when herfather became the pretender to the throne of France. Mistress woman's personality sharply drawn, she was the faithful collaborator of her father.


Princesse Anne de France (1906-1986) :



Third daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Guise, very tall and slender, she should have known a life loaded test she crossed as woman of duty, focusing overall compliance.
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2008, 08:17:44 AM »
Their mother, Princess Isabelle Duchess of Guise (1878-1961), left here photographed with her sister-in-law Marie d'Orléans, Princess Valdemar of Denmark :




A story circulating about Isabelle of France, that the old Emperor Franz Joseph, Sisi became a widower in 1898, thought a while, despite the age difference, to remarry with the lovely young Princess.

But the union did not take place and Isabelle married the same year her cousin Jean, Duke of Guise.
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2008, 08:50:32 AM »
First communion of Princess Anne and her brother Henri of Orleans, future Count of Paris, during the First World War :


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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2009, 09:50:42 AM »
And my gosh, Isabelle was just the spitting image of her father, as a child and adult. Too cute.
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2009, 11:31:25 AM »
Hello everybody,

I am french and my grandmother was a faithful friend of Isabelle de France, comtesse Bruno d'Harcourt. I'm very interested in our royal family and I'm looking for pictures of this princess, especially in her old years. Does one of you have some?
Post here pictures and informations  about Isabelle, and even her descendants.

Thanks.

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2009, 02:12:01 PM »
Thanks MarieCharlotte, nice picture.

I guess the girl in the back is one of Isabelle's 3 daughters...I had never seen pictures of prince Pierre Murat, Michel de Grèce described him as "enormous" at the end of his life but good-looking when he was young (Mémoires insolites). There are some interesting stories about Isabelle, her sister Françoise etc...in this book, when Michel lived in her aunt's hôtel particulier.

Do you have other pictures?
in her old years: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=fr;m=IMH;d=1188828020;i=1941868;k=/isabelle.2.d_orleans

I'm not sure about her deathplace: I've read she died in Louveciennes...Was at in her brother's house (the count of Paris) ?

Isabelle had 4 children from her first marriage to comte Bruno d'Harcourt:
- Bernard (1925-1958)
-Gilone (1927) married to count Antoine de Dreux-Brézé, who owns the wonderful caste of Cany, in Normandy
-Isabelle (1927-1993) married to prince Louis Murat, a first cousin once removed of Pierre
-Monique(1929) married to Alfred de Boulay de la Meurthe: she is the grandmother of Adélaide de Clermont-Tonnerre who is quite famous in France as journalist

if someone has pictures of Isabelle's daughters...



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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2009, 08:28:06 AM »
Princesses Isabelle, Françoise and Anne with their mother Isabelle of Guise and the Orléans-Braganza 's family :

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2009, 10:31:33 AM »
No, as a matter of fact it was the future king Alexander I who is supposed to have proposed to Sophie Vendôme.
Wasn't he aware of her handicap ?

Her parents shared a great degree of consanguinity – so many of Louis Philippe's grandchildren and great-grandchildren practiced endogamy to such a high level that it is amazing that not more such cases happened.

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2009, 10:34:43 AM »
Francoise was very attractive and was a candidate for Boris of Bulgaria in 1928, eventually accepting the wealthy widower Pr Christopher. Isabelle made a private marriage to Ct Bruno who was descended from 8 Duc d'Harcourt. In widowhood she  refused Alfonso of The Two Sicilies in 1936, and married Pr Pierre descened from 3 Pr Murat, (Sadly her grand dughter Laure  was the lover of that cad Sir James Goldsmith and bore him two natural children). Helene was to marry the grand son of king Amadeo of Spain. She was a noted beauty and was arrested and sent to a concentration camp by the Nazi's. Her husband 3 Duke of Aosta was Viceroy of Ethiopia and Govenor General of Italian East Africa

You meant to say Anne married the grandson of the former King Amedeo of Spain, correct. Princess Anne was married to her first cousin Amedeo of Aosta. They had two daughters, both of whom married into royal circles and are still alive. This family were the last tenants of the beautiful palace or Miramare near Trieste, which was previously the home of Emperor Maximlian and Empress Charlotte of Mexico, before they departed on their madcap adventure.

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2010, 07:21:28 AM »
I perceive that there is no subject on Jean d'Orleans, Duke of Guise and Count of Paris (1874-1940). There is only one topic on his daughters Isabelle, Françoise and Anne and his son Henry, but nothing on him or on his wife Isabelle d'Orleans in particular. I'd like to remedy that omission by dedicating to him and his family from that thread today.

Forum administrators may encompass this devoted to his three daughters if they deem it necessary.

Images and information on this family are of course welcome. Thank you in advance to participants...
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2010, 09:17:30 AM »
Little boy around 1877 :

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2010, 10:56:58 AM »
Thanks for having this thread. I am always fasinated by the Orleans, but no English bio on the subject.  :(

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Re: Jean d'Orléans, Duc de Guise (1874-1940) and his family
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2010, 11:24:38 AM »
Jean and Isabelle in the wedding of their son Henri. Behind them, their daughter Francoise



 

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