Was Communism Good For Russia? - Your Opinion Part 2

It is *supposed* to be a place to discuss the Russian revolution (any and all of them, and it is your VIEW, not fact, this "counter" business), but it is, due to the nature of this website (a focus on the Imperial era of Russia), impossible to engage in serious discussion. There are two highly-opinionated, fixated, unbudgeable camps here.  If one cares to jump on the merry-go-round just for giggles now and then (which is what it's become for me, personally) FINE.

So, what ALWAYS winds up happening is:  1. those on one's "side" enjoy a sort of "mutual admiration society" 2. The opposition spouts the usual rhetoric  3. The same exchanges occur, much like a tennis match, only nobody wins 4. If one begins to *truly* speak one's mind, the thread gets locked.

Rinse and repeat until one stops procrastinating and gets back to real life and its attendant resposibilities, or simply find something better to do than be "board."
Because the procedure above is only and will remain an exercise in futility.

If you like Imperial times so much (stop denying it, will you?) why not read and post on the threads where people have an area of expertise in specific aspects of that era -- the military, jewels, photos, etc.  Those sections can be quite fascinating, very educational, and seldom controversial.

True, it is my view that the Bolshevik coup was a counter-revolution. I picked this up from Alaxander Yakovlev, who presented a great case against the Soviet Empire in the book I mentioned in a few posts back. If there was ever a Nuremberg-Style trial against still-living NKVD agents (which is not at all likely), this would be exhibit A.

You constantly saying that I long for Imperial Russia is just a canard and a rather pathetic one. I really have little interest in Imperial Russia. Are you saying that since I think Lenin and Communism was bad I somehow think the Tsars were good? Sorry, but that's just not the case at all and I think you know it. That reminds me of a debate I had with a Stalinist on another message board that since I was against Stalin I must be for Hitler. Talk about ridiculous!  

But how can you judge it if you haven't seen it?
Now who is propagandistic?

rs

Well I've heard enough about it to know that it shows Che in nothing but a favorable light. I'd probably get mad and throw my popcorn at the screen then get kicked out of the theatre, wasting $7.50 of my hard-earned money on another piece of Hollywood crap.

Actually it's a great 'Buddy/road movie" and CHE wasn't a revolutionary in it ...

But as its not in Umuricun english it might be too much for some people to deal with... It's not hollywood it's GOOD!

Back On Topic Please!

Actually it's a great 'Buddy/road movie" and CHE wasn't a revolutionary in it ...

But as its not in Umuricun english it might be too much for some people to deal with...

Back On Topic Please!

Hey, you're the one who brought it up!  

True - I was trying to lighten the tone in here...

It seems that I failed - and you may miss a great film...

Too bad
rs

True - I was trying to lighten the tone in here...

It seems that I failed - and you may miss a great film...

Too bad
rs

Bah, it doesn't seem like my type of movie anyway, Che or not.

So what sort of film is "your" kind?

[Now back to topic!!!!]

So what sort of film is "your" kind?

hardcore porn (just kidding)



Here are some I like:

The Chekist
Se7en (my all-time favorite!!!)
The Silence of the Lambs
Frailty
Braveheart
Gladiator
The Godfather
Goodfellas
All the "Dirty Harry" movies
Death Wish
Star Wars (the original trilogy)

and many others that slip my mind at the moment....

Now back to topic!!!!

[On Topic]

CJ

Well we certainly have diverse tastes in films...
I would prefere

The Lion in Winter
Ballad of a Soldier
La Strada
Spartacus (Criterion)
The Road to Perdition
He loves me/He loves me not
Nicholas and Alexandra ( a laugh riot!)
The Twelve Chairs
The Producers (Zero killes me!)
The Front ( I can't stop crying through it )

CJ we ought to try to just discuss movies somewhere, it might be fun!

On Topic well everyone already knows my perspective on this one!

rskkiya

Well, I suppose I'd better add my list aswell.  

Star Wars Trilogy
A Clockwork Orange
Fantasia (the original)
Star Wars Trilogy
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
2001: a space odyssey
Star Wars Trilogy
Lawrence of Arabia
Beauty and the Beast
Star Wars Trilogy
Trainspotting

Oh, and did I mention Star Wars?  

I'll play:

Four Weddings & A Funeral
Groundhog Day
Moulin Rouge
L.A. Confidential
Laura

To prove I can lighten up

Wizard of Oz
Fried Green Tomatoes
God Father 1 & 2
Harry Potter (all of them)
Silence of the Lambs
American President
The Little Mermaid
Chicago
Nicholas and Alexandra

It's not a movie, but Ken Burns The Civil War

Louise

I'll join the ban wagon here.  My list (not in order of preferences):

"Love Actually"
"Pride And Prejudice" with Colin Firth
"Sense And Sensibility"
"Jane Eyre" the A&E version and the 1996?  one as well
"Harry Potter" all three
"Princess Diaries" both
"Elizabeth"
"Shakespeare In Love"
"Vanity Fair"

Can't think of any others at the moment.

Dasha

28, why do you ask???

I wanted to know if you might be still living in the Cold War.

Who is that in your avatar?

[Sean McMeekin]

I wanted to know if you might be still living in the Cold War.

Who is that in your avatar?

Oh, ha ha. Funny, those who wish to discuss the atrocities of the Communists are always accused of this, but no one is accused of "living in the Second World War" if they bring up the atrocities of the Fascists. Strange double standard there. Both are worthy of discussion in my opinion.

The avatar is General Augusto Pinochet Ugarte, arch-demon of the Communist Left (although Joe McCarthy might be a bigger one).

"Add up all of Pinochet’s victims in Chile over the two decades of his rule — which have probably generated more western media outrage than all Communist crimes put together — and you might be able to fill a week’s quota of political murders in Russia’s Red Terror." - Sean McMeekin