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Offline Sarastasia

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 02:52:48 PM »
I soooooooo wanted to be there for today, but...

I'm planning for 2018 too, but I bet it's gonna be HEAVING with people then!!

Hmmm... weather doesn't sound too good... but wanna be there regardless!!

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2008, 09:14:23 AM »
I watched some of the ceremonies at Ekaterinburg on the Russia Today channel. Looked like many people were at the night-time vigil taking part in the walk from the church to the first burial location. Amazing. Anyone here take part?

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2008, 10:38:04 AM »
There was a short descriptive piece in another thread; one of the members is writing a book on it, I believe... Can't find it, but I pretty sure I copied the text to my harddrive... I'll see if I can find it and post it.

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2008, 11:14:39 AM »
That would be great. Thanks

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2008, 12:49:32 PM »
Here it is:
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I have the full programme of the Tsar's Days for 13-22 July [2007] in Russian and you can certainly take it as read that this will be pretty much the template for future years in terms of the dates and events.  Here's a resume:

Photographic exhibition of large size pictures of Romanov family on display around the Church on the Blood from day one throughout
Various films and lectures in the basement lecture room of the Church throughout - though all in Russian.
Russian Orthodox Church meetings and events in the Church throughout - again all in Russian
Bell-ringing, RO choirs and various musical performances on a temporary platform outside the Church
Procession through the city with sacred icons (14 July)
Prayers and services also at the Svyato-Troitsky Sobor in Ekaterinburg during the period
All night vigil at the Svyato Triotsky (14 July)
Concert of RO music at the monastery at Ganina Yama (15 July)
Procession to commemorate arrival of the family in the city:  from Shartash (the railway point, now long since destroyed) where Tsar and Tsaritsa first arrived, to Church on the Blood (16 July)
NIGHT OF 16/17 JULY -  all night vigil at the Church on the Blood. NB: very crowded, NO toilet facilities, take warm things, food thermos flasks, cushions to sit on etc.
EARLY MORNING OF 17 JULY Pilgrimage from the Church on the Blood out to Ganina Yama - about 12km I think but bear in mind no rest or toilet facilities and probably minimal first aid back up.  On arrival at Ganina Yama there is a liturgy at 8 a.m. Bear in mind huge crowds all then trying to get on buses (don't know how many are laid on) back to town etc. Minimal toilet and food facilities. Ganina Yama has a good tourist shop and guides available who speak English.

6 am 17 July liturgy in the 'Execution Chamber' - a recreation of the room in the which the Romanovs were killed - located in basement of the Church on the Blood. NB this is NOT a full reconstruction merely a recreation of the space, with a cross. No decoration.

17 July - big concert of sacred music at Ganina Yama. That evening another all night vigil is held here.
18 July - commemorative events similar to these take place at Alapaevsk.

I do hope this helps.  My advice re Ganina Yama is to ensure you have a driver and interpreter.  Going on the pilgrimage could be a nightmare if you get stuck out there tired, exhausted and hungry with no easy means of getting back into town. Also it is not a very big place so how on earth that many thousands crammed in there I cannot imagine.

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 03:39:59 AM »
It sounds like quite an event. Thanks again for the details.

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 05:28:55 AM »
No problem!!

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2008, 05:28:02 PM »
I always wanted to go,to pay respect to them.
Never forget, them.

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2009, 10:26:51 PM »
It can get like that in Wisconsin, too. Mosquitoes are also abundant.
For example, today's weather in my neck of the woods: 93*F with about 60% humidity and a tropical dew point. Little to no breeze. Ick.
I'm back on my bull****.

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2009, 12:47:23 AM »
Looking at the dates on this thread, this topic revives itself once a year, with little or no success. Just pipe-dreams.  Since the interest seems to be within the "teen groupies,"  I would say that you need to "get REAL." Stop deceiving yourselves just to sound "committed."
  Consider that (1) you have an absolutely overly- romanticized and unrealistic concept of the individual planning efforts, documents, insurances, permits to travel etc  needed according to age grouping, etc., airplane changes in one ot two coiuntries with possible over-night stays between airports, temporary versus more stubtantial lodgings, FOOD, etc..  I hope no one thinks that they can do it solo and to go there, certainly not by yourselves alone , but rather go in a group with adult chaperones, dealing with a language and alphabet that  no one understands and a hotels system that has 2 price levels (meaning more expensive for YOU per night) and with potentially no airconditioning. And then there is the transportation.  Russia is HUGE. One of their administrative regions is as big as the entire country of Belgium!  Also the length of time you wish to stay may be cut short if the relatively newly-instituted "Migration Cards " are in effect.  You must use legally RUBLES, not dollars or euros. If you try to illegally exchange dollars for Rubles in some black-market arrangement, you are breaking the law, plus probably getting no-good out-of-date, devalued rubles in exchange (poetic justice)!  So considering traveling by yourself is inordinately silly and OUT.  Will you then go with an organized group (say from the USA to the Urals?  I think there is NO interest in such.)  And I believe that no parent will let you go alone!  You simply cannot imagine the distance that you will have to travel. I am older and thus have traveled alone several times, but not as far as the Urals.  AND THEN, there is NUMBER 2: the cost in USD dollars.  Are you capable of spending possibly a basic , very basic $5,000.+ for round trip travel, etc,  perhaps for no more than 2 weeks per each person, since its the high season and you will be perceived as more affluent.  The answer is NO, I don't believe that any of you have the money.  You will need to wait until you are older, join a Baltic cruise (including St. Petersburg), with a clleared vision of what the trip entails by professionals.  BUT, by that time, the enthuasium for the dead and buried family will hold NO interest for many of you to make such sacrifices time-wise or financially, being occupied with your  own home and children.  Then there are those that say they will study a year in Russia! Self-deception ?  Smoke and mirrors? Will you be willing to give up a comfortable daily home commute to, say, a state-supported school,such as Tulsa State University ? Even if  one of the teens here is even accepted, IMO they will not finish, finding it too demanding and thus having learned a expensive and tough lession. I have been on Russian campii and spoken with students.  They impressed me as MOST willing to achieve, the competition is fierce, something not often encountered her.  I will follow certain students in the forum and their Russian aspiration/dreams, as they post them on here to see who (if any) actually make it to Russia to the Urals as a memory visit and/or to school. I think that our teens are too comfortable to last out either venture.     AP
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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2009, 06:11:09 PM »
Its true that there are many logistical and financial barriers concerning travel to Ekaterinburg but I don't think its necessary to adopt such a harsh tone towards the teenage members of the forum. There's nothing wrong with having big dreams about future travels or studies - you discover as you get older which goals are most realistic for you. For those still interested in travel/study in Russia when they hit university age or beyond, there are doable options out there. Some North American Universities offer exchange terms for Russian language majors at Russian universities. I have a friend who did this as an undergraduate and had a very rewarding experience. For those interested in travel without language fluency, there are guided package tours - even Romanov themed tours - that cover Moscow, St. Petersburg and Ekaterinburg.

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2009, 06:25:24 PM »
You have exactly reinforced my caveats.  The themes are:  be mature, realistic, research/seek experienced guidance and be prepared intellectually, emotionally, physically and financially.  Unfortunately this is usually not thought through and those dreams literally "hit a brick wall."    Regards,  AP

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2009, 09:18:11 PM »
Alex, Do you always have to burst someone's bubble.  Of course, the young dream big.  Didn't you? You seem to always find something with the younger posters.  By the way, IF you don't like the colored pictures dont' look.  Or if you are so worried about the colors not being authentic then color some that are.  Those who color the pictures here on the Forum do beautiful and very artistic work and should be congratulated not sneered at.

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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2009, 09:36:30 PM »
Hello, "NurseVicky" !  Thanks for your comments.  Obviously my points are understood.  Always good to hear from you!  Regards,  AP

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Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2009, 10:47:05 PM »
Alex, Thank you for your prompt and gracious reply.  Vickie