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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #210 on: May 27, 2015, 05:35:53 PM »
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Load the doubters into a time machine and send them back to that awful night in Yekaterinburg and let them see for themselves what happened

That might be the only way to convince them.  I mean there are STILL people out there who think Anastasia survived. 
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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #211 on: May 27, 2015, 05:37:44 PM »
Flat earth believers can think what they like, but fact remains there is little, if any, evidence to support their beliefs. Life is not a fairytale unfortunately and terrible things do happen to undeserving people. The Romanovs were no exception.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #212 on: May 27, 2015, 05:46:06 PM »
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Flat earth believers can think what they like

Yeah, I know.  Anastasia's ghost could materialize in front of them and give a first hand account, and said flat earthers still wouldn't believe.
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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #213 on: May 29, 2015, 01:16:32 AM »
You could send them back in a time machine and they still wouldn't believe.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #214 on: July 11, 2015, 11:18:53 AM »
"Russian Government Seeks to Identify and Bury the Children of the Last Tsar"

A new government commission has been appointed to resolve this issue.

Hope they succeed this time!

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #215 on: July 17, 2015, 02:23:31 AM »
I know most Russian experts believed the "missing daughter" (whose fragmentary remains have since been discovered, along with Alexei's) was Grand Duchess Maria. However, English and American geneticists and other scientists who examined the remains state that the "missing" daughter was Anastasia, not Maria. Based on the evidence I've read--and no, I'm no expert--I think the missing daughter was Anastasia. (My opinion, BTW, has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I'm American. I just felt that the Anglo-American team had better evidence to support their conclusion that it was Anastasia who was missing.)

In the end I guess it really doesn't matter. Even if Alexei and Anastasia were found separately from the rest of their family, the sad fact remains that not a single member of Nicholas II's immediate family (his wife and children) survived. They all died--were murdered, more accurately--together in that wretched basement in the Ipatiev House in Ekaterinburg, Russia, along with several devoted servants. Tonight marks the 97th anniversary of those bloody and heartless executions. Hard to believe it all happened so long ago--it breaks my heart knowing that those five beautiful children never got the chance to live out their lives. May they rest in peace.
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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #216 on: July 17, 2015, 12:48:51 PM »
I know most Russian experts believed the "missing daughter" (whose fragmentary remains have since been discovered, along with Alexei's) was Grand Duchess Maria. However, English and American geneticists and other scientists who examined the remains state that the "missing" daughter was Anastasia, not Maria. Based on the evidence I've read--and no, I'm no expert--I think the missing daughter was Anastasia. (My opinion, BTW, has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I'm American. I just felt that the Anglo-American team had better evidence to support their conclusion that it was Anastasia who was missing.)

In the end I guess it really doesn't matter. Even if Alexei and Anastasia were found separately from the rest of their family, the sad fact remains that not a single member of Nicholas II's immediate family (his wife and children) survived. They all died--were murdered, more accurately--together in that wretched basement in the Ipatiev House in Ekaterinburg, Russia, along with several devoted servants. Tonight marks the 97th anniversary of those bloody and heartless executions. Hard to believe it all happened so long ago--it breaks my heart knowing that those five beautiful children never got the chance to live out their lives. May they rest in peace.

If you believe in conspiracy theories than I feel like the Russian government had more to gain from convincing the world that the missing daughter was Maria - and thereby help to dispel those nagging and persistent rumors of Anastasia's escape - than the Anglo/American team did for convincing people it was Anastasia.
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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #217 on: February 13, 2016, 03:59:47 AM »
It's great having closure after nearly 100 years.  Took them long enough!

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #218 on: February 24, 2016, 06:29:53 PM »
It has been scientifically proven many times that 4 daughters and 1 son of Nicholas and Alexandra's were found outside Yekaterinburg, giving mute evidence to confirm the claim of the City's Bolsheviks. I am of the opinion that we will never know for certain which younger daughter was buried with Alexei. We do know that only one of the 4 daughters was a hemophilia carrier.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #219 on: April 09, 2016, 12:21:10 PM »
It's great having closure after nearly 100 years.  Took them long enough!

You know it . I know it .The Russian Orthodox Church don't consider the matter closed - far from it - and many ROC followers go along with that . The ROC need to publically concede that all the IF remains are accounted for and were buried in Pigs Meadow , not Yanina Gama, and bury all the remains together in St Petersburg.  Someday this saga is going to end . It's about time.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #220 on: May 21, 2016, 01:18:18 PM »
Just watched the program on C5 in the UK. well that wrap sit up at last. All members accounted for and ow only to bury the last two with the rest of their family.

DNA shows remains children of Tsar and thus Alexis and Anastasia (or Maria).

Finally.


Even though the results were some time ago and in reply to your comments  ( DNA shows shows remains children of the Tsar and thus Alexis and Anastasia (or Maria) . it was Anastasia  and not Marie as DNA examination showed three of the the daughters shared the sane DNA of their mother, Anastasia did not but shared  the DNA of her brother Alexei and their father Nicholas 11 .  Photo proof is posted and can be seen on Royal Bloodline Descent    on face book


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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #221 on: May 21, 2016, 06:17:25 PM »
Interesting new paper just published about genes for face shape. See http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0516/190516-nose-shape for details. Nothing there about ears as they have already been studied and ear-shape is a lot more complex.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #222 on: May 21, 2016, 06:33:18 PM »
Just watched the program on C5 in the UK. well that wrap sit up at last. All members accounted for and ow only to bury the last two with the rest of their family.

DNA shows remains children of Tsar and thus Alexis and Anastasia (or Maria).

Finally.


Even though the results were some time ago and in reply to your comments  ( DNA shows shows remains children of the Tsar and thus Alexis and Anastasia (or Maria) . it was Anastasia  and not Marie as DNA examination showed three of the the daughters shared the sane DNA of their mother, Anastasia did not but shared  the DNA of her brother Alexei and their father Nicholas 11 .  Photo proof is posted and can be seen on Royal Bloodline Descent    on face book


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HOGWASH! I have spoken twice with Dr. Teri Melton who was one of the DNA scientists who did the original and subsequent DNA testings. Anastasia matched her siblings AND Mother, including the mtDNA of Queen Victoria descent.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #223 on: May 21, 2016, 07:40:49 PM »
First I would thank you for your comment of Hogwash which I assume in English would mean not true. The Specialist you mentioned Teri Milton would you kindly show his/her words to contradict what Royal Bloodline Descent has mentioned and proven by providing photo pictures and been suggested as fake photos .

Always nice to hear from you even though we have different opinions on the matter at hand. I assume you have not yet found time to look at our posted photo facts but always appreciated your comments right or wrong

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #224 on: May 21, 2016, 07:57:33 PM »
No, it's not true.  You appear to be getting confused by the controversy about whether the skeletal fragments in the latest grave were those of Maria or Anastasia. It does not matter either way, as they were both confirmed to be sisters to the other three children, and the children of a male and a female skeleton found in the first grave, identified as the Tsar and the Tsararina. The fact that all children are accounted for among the skeletal material is far more important from a scientific point of view than the identification of Maria and Anastasia at a personal level. That may be important in a religious context, but it does not invalidate the scientific findings from the DNA evidence.

DNA tells the truth. It is a very powerful modern forensic and genetic tool, and it is not easily refuted. It is more important than the shape of one's ears.