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Offline drronnie

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"Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« on: August 14, 2008, 07:49:44 PM »
Both of them are movies about the IF. As a matter of fact I enjoyed them both and cannot really say if one is better than the other. However I have to point out that "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" did in fact bring me into tears and was very intense. 

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 08:19:03 PM »
In my opinion, Romanovy: Ventsenosnaya Semya portrays the Imperial Family as more of a normal family.It also portrays the last days of the Imperial Family with more accuracy.The sets looked identical to the real places (they even filmed in the real Alexander Palace) and the actors also looked a lot like the people they were portraying.In Nicholas and Alexandra, you can't even tell OTMA apart.Nicholas and Alexandra is also a good movie, but it's kind of like a Hollywood version of history.
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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 08:28:52 PM »
Thank you. I second that Robors. The fact that they filmed it at the original places together with Russian actors who really do resemble the real IF familiy makes it very realistic. Therefore this movie was moving and you could feel yourself involved in it. Nicholas and Alexander is somewhat more fariytalelike with a sad ending.

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 02:25:53 AM »
Ventsenosnaya Semia For me....Actors looked like real IF, original places, specific looks to them as persons, etc. But, Nicholas and Alexandra is good one, too.... ;)

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 04:14:28 AM »
I personally did prefer "Romanovy" to "Nicholas and Alexandra". I thought it was more accurate and the portrayal of the family was very well done and sweet. IMHO, "Nicholas and Alexandra" was worth watching, but I thought it could have been much better.

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 04:30:32 AM »
I agree with you Ferah. Eventough Nicholas and Alexdar was a good movie they lacked the "Russian spirit" which was present in Romanovy. Nobody can play Russian history movie as the Russians themselves.

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 04:53:06 AM »
Ventsenosnaya Semia has to be the best of the two. Wonderful movie
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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 08:19:48 AM »
Ventsenosnaya Semia has to be the best of the two. Wonderful movie

Yes, I definitely have to agree there. I think Nicholas and Alexandra could have been improved in many ways, such as the script - some things that the central characters might say/do seem wrong or uncharacteristic - and I think I remember that it did show a number of events historically inaccurate. I also wish that the children had more lines and scenes which showed their personalities and more of their family life. But, if you're interested in Russian history, then I'd still say Nicholas and Alexandra is worth a watch!

Romanovy: Ventsenosnaya Semya was so lovely! - that's why the slightest complaint I have about it is that I wished it showed some of the earlier times of the Imperial Family as well ;) ...

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 11:14:26 AM »
N&A was made in 1971, a big Hollywood-style production.  Romanovsky in 2001, a Russian production.  They are  both good films but it is unfair to try and compare them.
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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 03:32:31 PM »
I agree that 'Romanovy' is better (although I've not seen it all).  The character of Alexei in 'Nicholas and Alexandra' is far too sullen, even as a 12 or 13 y.o.  But I'm not sure that either movie can portray Nicholas well.  How do you 'act' the sort of mixture his expression had of simultaneous suffering and charm?  Very hard to get his eyes right.

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 07:43:25 PM »
I would love if I had see years before 1917 in Romanovy, like you, Robors.
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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2008, 02:52:57 AM »
"Romanovy" is more appealing to me in general, but I have two complaints:

I tend to agree with Greg King's assessment of the film as "quasi-religious, monarchist, and nationalistic propaganda."  Good propaganda, but propaganda nevertheless.

I hated Tatiana's "My parents are nobodies because my hair is falling out" incident.
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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2008, 11:07:08 PM »
It was a beautiful drama but very sad. The way I understand the hair falling out part was that Tatjana was trying to ease the tense situation after she had made the thoughtless comment which obviously annoyed the Empress.

The singing by Nicholas and the children was moving.

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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2008, 10:09:48 AM »
Hmmm....I love both the movies, and also both the soundtracks were moving..

I think that you can't say which movie is better. If you want to see the whole story i'd say 'Nicholas and Alexandra', even with the innacuracies it has, but then again 'Romanovy' shows them as a family and really tells the story of their last months and is allot more acurate on the sets, and I think that both movies did a good job on the looks of the actors in general, only the girls in 'Nicholas and Alexandra'didn't look like the girls at all, which was a bit annoying...
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Re: "Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya" vs "Nicholas and Alexandra"
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2008, 03:40:24 PM »
i agree i think that romanovy is the better film but i like both. also we have two film s to compare- perhaps in the 1970's when N&A came out it was the Romanovy of its time