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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2008, 12:37:31 AM »
Hello All,

I was born in Kamenka (Penza region, Russia) the former Voeikovo. My father deals with history of the place and looks for information about Vladimir Voeikov after he leaved Russia.
I will appreciate if anyone can help. Please feel free writing me.

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Serge

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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2008, 10:18:37 AM »
Welcome Serge!!!

After leaving Russia, Count Voeikov went to Ukraine(to Odessa), then to Bukuresht at Romania, then through Yugoslawia to Vienn, then to Berlin, then to Copenhagen -- where he wanted to met Dowager Marie Fodorovna, but she didn't want. He described every journey to these countries.

She though that Voeikov wanted Tsar's abdication in March in 1917. Finally, he went Finland, when he contacted his family. In 1936, he began to wrote memories. Thanks to his son, memories were published.

His memories are some kind of autobiography -- and his view of Russian Empire, Russian Court, Tsar since 1913. by early 1917.

I hope I helped.  ;)
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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2008, 02:09:50 AM »
Thank you very much!

Could you tell me please where V.N. Voeikov was buried? Do you know of some his alive descendants?

Merry Christmass and Happy New Year!





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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2008, 04:49:06 AM »
Thak you! Merry Christmas and Happy New year to you too!



On Russian webs it is said he died in exile in France. Where he was buried, I don't know. Probably in France, but I am not certain. Strange-- sometimes it was said he died in 1942, sometime in 1947 (?).

His wife Nina was daughter of Count Frederiks, and they had son. That is all I know. For descendants I don't know. I hope I'll find more infos.!  ;)
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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2008, 07:01:20 AM »
Thank you for your kind help!

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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 08:29:14 AM »
Vladimir Voeikov died on October 8th 1947 in Danderyd, Sweden and was buried October 11th 1947 in Stockholm's Northern cemetery (Norra Kyrkogården). The casket with his ashes was reburried on June 25th 1948 in the cemetery of Kauniainen (close to Helsinki), Finland, in the same grave where were buried Voldemar (Vladimir) Freedericksz and his daughter Emma.
Voeikov's wife, Eugenia, who died December 29th 1950, was first buried in Stockholm's Northern cemetery, but reburied June 28th 1951 in Kauniainen, in the same grave as above.

I am surprised to read here they would have had a son. Does anyone has any information about him?

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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2013, 08:57:44 AM »
Eight years ago (where the time has gone?!) Penny Wilson wrote about Voeikov's book:  "With the Tsar and Without Him" -- as we call it -- is already being translated with a view towards publishing it in English, completely annotated, under the Atlantis imprint.

We are translating it with the assistance of a Russian woman in St Petersburg because of the "old Russian" type-setting that was used.  It was a bit beyond my capabilities, and we have a marvellous benefactrix who hooked us up with a good translator.

Once the translating is complete, Greg and I will have to accomplish the annotating -- which we rather enjoy doing, as both of us love long footnotes in books! 

So the publication date is still very much up in the air, and of course, we have no idea at all of the price.  That will be determined by the size of the print run, which will in turn depend on the amount of interest.  We don't like the idea of pre-orders; we like people to pay-as-they-go -- but we will at some point, as the project nears completion, be doing a bit of advertizing in order to compile a waiting list.

Times have changed, maybe today it is easier to publish it?

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2013, 09:42:13 AM »
PS.
Voeikov's wife, Eugenia, was the elder daughter of Count Freedericksz.

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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2013, 09:45:15 AM »
Sounds great Rudy. I'm certain that you will do a terrific job!

Best of luck with the book and keep us posted on that pub date.
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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2013, 10:17:05 AM »
Actually, the whole story about the book is the quote from Penny Wilson. So the project of the translation of the book is hers and Greg King's. Let's hope they will one day be able to publish the translation of Voeikov's book.

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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2013, 11:22:18 AM »


The grave of Count Freedericksz, his daughters Emma and Eugenie (married to Voeikov) and son-in-law Vladimir Voeikov (Wladimir Woyeikow spelled on the monument)

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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2013, 10:07:40 PM »
Hi Rudy,

It was one of many obscure titles we were considering doing as new print versions in translation, along with Spiridovich, Smirnoff, Deterichs, Speransky, the full manuscript of Gabriel Konstantinovich's memoirs, etc.  But in the end we never had time to pursue these as we were engaged in other books.  We still have the material and perhaps one day may make an arrangement with another publisher to try to bring English language editions forward to the public, but it is not unfortunately something that we are actively pursuing at the moment owing to demands on our time and our next book.

Thanks,

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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2013, 02:59:23 AM »
Many thanks, Greg, for your reply!

What a pity this material is lying somewhere in a drawer and waiting for better days!

Let's hope one day .....

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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2013, 10:40:42 AM »
PS.
Voeikov's wife, Eugenia, was the elder daughter of Count Freedericksz.

Count Voeikov 's wife is often (usually?) called Nina. But here she is named Eugenia. Is Nina simply a nickname for Eugenia in this case?  Certainly possible, but then, maybe not.
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Re: With Tsar and Without Tsar, Count Vladimir N. Voeikov
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2013, 10:52:28 AM »
Evgenija Vladimirovna Voeikova was often called Nini. But officially her first names were Eugenie Valeria Josefina.