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Chris Snyder

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Polar Star
« on: January 28, 2004, 07:42:54 PM »
Does anyone have any information on the fate of the Polar Star?  I am curious to know what happened to it.

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Re: Polar Star
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2004, 01:46:14 PM »
I do know that during the 900 days of siege by the Germans of Lenningrad the Polar Star was moored on the Neva quay next to the Winter Palace. Lines were strung to the palace and the ship's engines provided electricity for the Hermitage museum during the siege.
I could find no information as to whether it was re-named by the Soviets or as to what eventually happened to her. I too would be interested if anyone has any further information of this ship. I understand that after the Standart was commissioned the Polar Star served mainly as a yacht for the Dowager Empress until the Revolution.

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Re: Polar Star
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2004, 12:09:28 AM »
Glasgow University has an interesting photograph album of a Baltic Cruise in 1902 with a photograph of the Polar Star:


http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/month/mar2003.html

"Shown here, for example, is a photograph of Czar Nicholas II's yacht, the Etoile Polaire (Polyarnaya Zvezda or Polar Star). Built in 1891 by the order of the Russian Imperial Court, she was one of a fleet of yachts at the call of the Imperial family during this period."

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2004, 09:13:01 AM »
Here Alexander III, Maria Feodorovna and GD Xenia are pictured aboard the Polar Star in Finnish fiords:

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2004, 10:46:35 AM »
That is a fantastic picture. Thank you!

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Re: Polar Star
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2004, 05:38:20 AM »
This is from memory, so I may have a few details wrong.  After the Revolution, "Polar Star" was taken by the Soviet Government and turned over to the Navy.  It was stripped and re-fitted as a cruiser and stationed at Kronstadt.  The original interior woodwork from some of the cabins was saved and is now preserved.  Between 1930-36 it was re-fitted with arms, including a number of machine guns and artillery, and 76 mm. and 45 mm. guns were mounted on the decks.  In 1939 she was sent to Finland as part of the Soviet Navy stationed there.  During the Second World War she served as a cruiser in escort for various battleships in the Gulf.  Apparently she was never, as was "Standart," renamed-at least not as I recall off the top of my head, though this could be wrong.  In 1954 she underwent another re-fitting, and served as a training ship.  In 1961 (about the same time as "Standart") she was, if I recall, towed to a yard in Helsinki and apparently broken up.  She disappears from Soviet registries in that year.  I have complete details round here somewhere that I have to find to finish up my next book, so when I do I will post more information or correct anything in error above, but I hope this helps.

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2004, 07:55:43 AM »
This is how the Polar Star looked in 1891 during her maiden voyage...
... and 70 years later, when it was used as a floating target for the Baltic fleet artillery exercises - after serving as a submarine support ship and a floating barrack. Sic transit gloria mundi.



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Re: Polar Star
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2004, 10:48:32 PM »
The Central Naval Museum, St. Petersburg, has a model of the Polar Star:

http://www.museum.navy.ru/zall_e_2.htm

Has anyone visited this museum? From the website their models of the different ships look incredible. I wonder if they have anything on the Standart.

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2004, 01:28:34 AM »
If I remember correctly, they were keeping the whole Russian Admiralty's collection of ship models. By Peter I's never-annuled decree, an exact scale model had to be made and kept of every single new ship of the Russian navy. They used to display a part of this enormous collection in the basement of the former Stock Exchange building.

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2004, 11:25:22 AM »
Yes, the Naval Museum in St. Petersburg has a 1/4 inch scale model of the Standart but I understand that it is not currently on display.  The model is in the museum storeroom.

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Re: Polar Star
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2004, 08:09:09 PM »
Many many thanks Mike, Douglas & Harald! This museum is on my list for my next visit to ST.P! Just to see the display that they show on their website would be incredibly fascinating!

Does anyone know who made the models of the Polar Star and Standart of these photos?

http://groups.msn.com/ImperialDynastyTheROMANOVARCHIVES/imperialyachts.msnw?albumlist=2

Harald, did the curator comment of any plans in the future of publishing a book on the Standart and Polar Star with the photos, documents, etc from their archives? Has the museum published any booklets?

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2004, 09:53:56 PM »
I do not read Russian, but I do have a great "coffee table" book on the Imperial yachts.  Peter I to Nicholas II.  The ISBN is 5827600164. Sorry I cannot translate or even type the title & author.
It was published in 1997, includes a lot of lavish pictures
of not only the yachts, but flags, china, furniture, heraldic devices.
Someone asked  earlier on another thread I think, the arms as depicted in this volume are indeed gold with a red shield. I do not recall what I paid for it, but it was not cheap.
Hope this helps someone,
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2004, 10:13:56 PM »
Hello Robert,

I bought this book in Petersburg and itīs really wonderful. The title is "Russian Imperial Yachts, late XVII- beginning XX century" or "Russkie Imperatarskie Yakhti, konets XVII- nachalo XX veka"

The authors are: V.V. Znamenov, A.L. Larionov, T.N. Nosovich.

Hope this helps...
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2004, 10:24:37 PM »
Thanks Antonio. I pretty much figured that was the title, but not sure.Also was tempted to tanspose the cyrillic to roman alphbets. Sometimes I can get away with that, but it is not always successful.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2004, 06:29:26 PM »
OH MY Harald do you have photos of the Alexandria? Of its interior? And of the Polar Star's interiors?  Will you be expanding your site to include both of these yachts with their history, etc., ? Also please write when you receive more information of this exhibition in 2005/6 ok!

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