If you could save the imperial family ?

Some of you may find this question stupid.

Let say that God ( if he exist ) sent you back in time to save the imperial family. And if you did take the offer to save them. 20 million people would die. Would you still have saved them ?

I believe God knew more than well what he was doing. Even if we don´t understand why....

No. And I don't think the IF would want to be saved at the expense of so much suffering -- they didn't even want to be rescued if it meant leaving their servants behind.

God's plan for everyone's life is perfect. He wouldn't change his mind.

If he did, I would not rescue the IF. I would feel like a murderer if I did, and who knows what would happen to the world?

I would say I personally do believe in God, and if He truly does exist, I'm sure He knew what he was doing, with the fate of the Imperial Family.

 I would say I personally do believe in God, and if He truly does exist, I'm sure He knew what he was doing, with the fate of the Imperial Family.

Maybe Jesus made their fate like that since He wants to make others who hate the Romanovs become aware they're not bad people at all.
Because they are good, Jesus destined them to be saints that Russians  would remember forever. 

 I would say I personally do believe in God, and if He truly does exist, I'm sure He knew what he was doing, with the fate of the Imperial Family.

Maybe Jesus made their fate like that since He wants to make others who hate the Romanovs become aware they're not bad people at all.
Because they are good, Jesus destined them to be saints that Russians  would remember forever. 

Agree with you.

[Poll reveals that Most Russians Endorse the Rehabilitation of Tsar Nikolai II]

Monday, 17 November 2008
Poll reveals that Most Russians Endorse the Rehabilitation of Tsar Nikolai II
Filed under: Revolution/Civil War, Romanovs, Russian, Soviet period, contemporary, history, politics — 01varvara @ 19:40


Moscow, 17 November 2008 (Interfax):

About 70 percent of Russians endorse the rehabilitation of Tsar Nikolai II and his family, whilst only 11 percent oppose it, the All-Russia Public Opinion Research Centre (VTsIOM) found out. The poll, which was taken in November in 140 cities and towns in 42 oblasts, krais, and republics in the Russian Federation, showed that the majority of those who support the decision of the Russian Supreme Court to rehabilitate the last Russian Tsar and his family are supporters of the Yedinaya Rossia (United Russia) and Spravedlivaya Rossia (Lawful Russia) political parties (74 percent and 70 percent respectively). Inhabitants of larger cities and villagers (73 percent) and Russians aged from 25 to 59 (71-72 percent) are in agreement with them.

Followers of the Communist Party (27 percent) and residents of smaller towns (15-18 percent) were usually against the rehabilitation of the imperial family. According to the poll, Nikolai II has the highest favourable rating of the figures of the revolutionary period (44 percent). As we go down the list, one finds Lenin (42 percent), Dzerzhinsky (40 percent), Kolchak (32 percent), Stalin (28 percent), Denikin (23 percent), Bukharin (21 percent), and Trotsky and Makhno (both 18 percent). At the bottom of the list were Kerensky (16 percent) and Milyukov (10 percent).

According to the data collected by the VTsIOM, research also showed that the number of Russians who rated Lenin and Stalin positively has fallen consistently in three successive polls taken over the past three years (from 50 percent to 42 percent and from 37 percent to 28 percent respectively), whereas the number of those who rated Nikolai II in a negative fashion has fallen from 28 to 22 percent. There were also reductions in negative reactions to Kolchak (from 41 to 30 percent), Makhno (from 55 to 45 percent), Kerensky (from 44 to 36 percent), Denikin (from 39 to 32 percent), and Trotsky (from 45 to 39 percent).

The Presidium of the RF Supreme Court ruled to rehabilitate Tsar Nicholas II and the members of his family in October. “The Presidium of the Supreme Court has ruled to recognise that NIkolai Aleksandrovich Romanov [Tsar Nikolai II], Aleksandra Fyodorovna Romanova, Olga Nikolaevna Romanova, Tatiana Nikolaevna Romanova, Maria Nikolaevna Romanova, Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova, and Aleksei Nikolaevich Romanov were repressed groundlessly and rehabilitates them”, a Supreme Court judge said in pronouncing the ruling of the court.

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Some of you may find this question stupid.

Let say that God ( if he exist ) sent you back in time to save the imperial family. And if you did take the offer to save them. 20 million people would die. Would you still have saved them ?

Let us not forget that 20 million people did die under Lenin and Stalin. So that price would be paid regardless

I think that is an extremely difficult question to answer. I would think that in the long term, saving the Imperial family would be the best thing to do. 20 million lives is a high cost to pay but as mentioned before the amount of lives's that were lost and the suffering that the Russian people endured would far exceed that number {or so i think}. I would save them not only because they were great people but also because there was always the possibility that they and their future generations could have had a profound impact on Russian politics which just may have reduced the suffering of the Russian nation. They were great people who did not deserve to die that way. May God keep their eternal souls safe.

 I would say I personally do believe in God, and if He truly does exist, I'm sure He knew what he was doing, with the fate of the Imperial Family.

Maybe Jesus made their fate like that since He wants to make others who hate the Romanovs become aware they're not bad people at all.
Because they are good, Jesus destined them to be saints that Russians  would remember forever. 

Vary well put, Ingrid!! I agree!

Like Sarushka said, I dont think they would want to be saved. Sure, I bet we all wish they never were killed the way they were. But, if they hadn't, would any of you know about them? other then from History class? Don't get me wrong, I wish they did live, but that is not my choice to make.

I almost wonder if they had come to terms with whatever they thought their fate was. Alexandra did say in her last letter to Anna V. that "Though we know that the storm is coming nearer and nearer, our souls are at peace. Whatever happens will be though God's will"....makes you think.

Lynn

I think that is an extremely difficult question to answer. I would think that in the long term, saving the Imperial family would be the best thing to do. 20 million lives is a high cost to pay but as mentioned before the amount of lives's that were lost and the suffering that the Russian people endured would far exceed that number {or so i think}. I would save them not only because they were great people but also because there was always the possibility that they and their future generations could have had a profound impact on Russian politics which just may have reduced the suffering of the Russian nation. They were great people who did not deserve to die that way. May God keep their eternal souls safe.

They certainly didn't deserve to die this way, but still - if you did saved them from dying in 1918, who knows what would have happened next. I do think God knew what he was doing, and I doubt he would change his mind.

Well, what I would do is hop into my time machine, go back to July 17, 1918, and save NAOTMAA and the others just before they were all executed, and bring them back to the 21st Century.  That way, history is more or less the same, in that their reign would still end, however, they would be alive now (I guess that would change a few things, in that no bones would be there to find, but the DNA tests would still debunk Anna Anderson, in that it would prove she was not related to them, because she didn't match with Prince Philip, a relative of Alexandra).

I think they would do well in our time, it's not like I was taking someone from the Middle Ages.  They could adapt.  Certainly Alexei would be better off now, because drugs exist that can control hemophilia.  He might be able to live a semblance of a normal life.

Well, what I would do is hop into my time machine, go back to July 17, 1918, and save NAOTMAA and the others just before they were all executed, and bring them back to the 21st Century.  That way, history is more or less the same, in that their reign would still end, however, they would be alive now (I guess that would change a few things, in that no bones would be there to find, but the DNA tests would still debunk Anna Anderson, in that it would prove she was not related to them, because she didn't match with Prince Philip, a relative of Alexandra).

I think they would do well in our time, it's not like I was taking someone from the Middle Ages.  They could adapt.  Certainly Alexei would be better off now, because drugs exist that can control hemophilia.  He might be able to live a semblance of a normal life.

Sadly Tim, that is wishful thinking if it was hypothetical it still would be difficult as the IF were heavily guarded in the Ipatiev house, not only with just armed guards on the inside, but also Gun machines trained on the upper level of the house across the road from the Ipatiev house.


Apparently British intelligence was watching the going ons of the IF during their last weeks in Enkatrinburg.  One reported that it would b a blood bath if anyone tried to rescue them.

Yeah, i guess the only way it could be done would be to scoop them out of time, like in the story I'm working on.

Speaking of which, time for another chapter