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Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« on: July 28, 2004, 03:32:51 PM »
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As far as I know Princess Alice of Battenberg was deaf from the very beginning as her auditory passages were too narrow - I did not read something about scarlet fever yet.

What I read in "Advoce to a grand-daughter" is that she learnt to read from the lips in four languages when aged 15...English, German, Frensh and Greek


From Hugo Vicker's Alice:
p.24: No one had yet noticed that Alice was deaf. The first hint came in a letter to Queen Victoria in January 1887, though the cause was still underdevloped in her mother's mind. Victoria wrote:
'Baby looks so nice in the pretty frocks you gave her. She is very slow in learning to talk, but on the other hand very clever with her fingers..."

p.25: It was not until Alice was four yers old that her mother began to articulate her concern. In a progress report to Queen Victoria she wrote:
'The child has grown very much since last you saw her, is very lively & quick with her fingers, but decidedly backward in speech, using all sorts of self-invented words & pronouncing others very indistinctly, so that strangers find it difficult to understand her. We make great efforts to improve this & I think the society of her little Erbach cousin is helping her on.'
Alice's grandmother, Princess Battenberg, was the person who identified the problem as deafness, taking Alice to an ear specialist in Darmstadt. Alice had been born with the defect, though some in the family assert that her hearing was damaged on one of her early sea voyages. The deafness was due to the thickness of the Eustachian tubes and would always be a problem. Her mother spent long hours with her, teaching her to lip-read, and she learned to follow conversations. By May 1889, Alice was speaking 'quite nicely at last', and her hearing was deemed better a year later. But in 1893, when she was eight, Victoria took her to an aurist in London, her lacak of progress remaining a 'great worry' to her parents. They discovered that no operation was possible. By the age of fourteen, there was a marked improvement, but it was not until as late as 1922 that Alice announced that she had heard a cuckoo for the first time. The deafness isolated Alice from the usual friendships of childhood but she learned to fall back on her own resources....Her mother had to decide how to treat her within the family circle. Alice's yonger brothers and sister were told that they must talk normally amongst themselves, making no concession to Alice. She would either join in or not....As she grew older, Alice could hear certain voices according to pitch. In the 1950s she surprised her family in Baden by hearing the guards march outside. It was the echo of stamping boots that she detected. And her lip-reading became so good that people put their hands over their mouths when imparting secrets across the room, aware that she could lip-read not only in English and German but in several languages. 'You had to be very careful what you said,' recalled Alice's niece, Princess Eugenie. [Footnote: Many years later Alice relished watching silent films, where she was able to lip-read what the characters were really saying. She amused her family by relating how in a passionate love scene in Von Stroheim's film, Greed (1923), in reality the hero was telling the heroine that he was being evicted for not paying his rent.]
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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 03:02:27 PM »
The old one was very,very long !
hope no one minds this new one?

I'll start with a photo - "http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/tom_romanov/250px-Victoria_Hesse_1863.jpg"


enjoy!,

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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 03:05:10 PM »
 thanks

 this pic is great, she look very beautifull in this dress.  im sure she did have long hair like her sisters.


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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 03:13:36 PM »
They all did except for Ella when she became a nun.
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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 04:53:53 PM »
I found this picture of Victoria which shows her together with Louise and Gustaf as well as Louis (Dickie), Edwina, Patricia and Pamela. It's said it would be taken in 1938, but from the looks of Patricia and Pamela I guess it was made in about ten years later, Řerhaps in the days afore or after the marriage of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.



Does anybody know when and where it was taken?

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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 10:00:04 AM »
She looks so small and frail but still with a fantastic,kindly smile

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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 11:51:13 AM »
she  look so cute witht his smile and soo tall ^^  although she was a tall Woman.  sadly that Louis died with his (i think) 67 years.



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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 12:15:16 PM »
well I think she looked small if you compare her anklels to Edwinda's- there like match sticks

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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 12:23:49 PM »
Well of course was Alix, Ella and Irene taller than VHM. She was the eldest and the eldest are always smaller..i know it..

She has long blond long hair like her sisters Ella and Alix. Irene has brown hair.  I think VHM was one of the Sisters, who has very bright hair color


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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2009, 12:27:34 PM »
yes I think that VMH hair was lighter than her sisters and it suited her better but wasn't Alix's hair more redish blonde?

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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2009, 12:35:09 PM »
yeah Alix hair has a little bit red  with blond in her hair.

Irene has the dark hair, i i see her pic so she did has brown hair.

sadly that Ella did cut her hair. What thought VHM about the hair  cut of Ella ?  she was surprised as she saw that someone stand in her room with very short hair and a big laugh. VHM thought it is a boy, but it was Ella. She seems to be happy with her cut hair, cause she did laugh.


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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 08:00:34 AM »
Victoria did never cried, mabe she thought it is faint to show the feelings. She was the eldest of her family, but it dont mean that she hanst a heart or feelings.  She wrote her feelings in Letters to Louis, Ella, Alix, Nona ( the Lady-in Waiting of her ) ect.

But after the death from her son George, she did cry.. o course she loose her first son, that she did born and has nine month in her belly.

I think ist not good to hide the feelings..she wanted just to be strongest.

But when ever Louis is on the sea, her Children comfort her. VHM did miss Louis very much, when he was on the sea


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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 08:34:40 AM »
VMH was far from a lovey dovey mother, she was a sensible woman with lots of close friends to keep her busy. Letters to her sisters, visits of cousins (Mary Loo, Thora, Alice of Athlone for example), Aunts (Princess Beatrice (very close to her), Princess Louise, Duchess of Arygll) and friend like Nora Kerr...

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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2009, 08:37:35 AM »
mabe she was than  a busy woman. So she was sometimes too busy to miss Louis.

But she teach her Son Dicki till he is ten years old. She knew  about everyything.


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Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2009, 08:38:20 AM »
VMH is no Alicky...