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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2005, 04:04:14 PM »
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Many thanks to Val for posting that photo of Olga, Alexey and Anastasia at the swingset in Tobolsk. The picture she reproduced here is much, much lighter and clearer than the one in my abridged Russian edition of the Sokolov report. I am also informed by Elizaveta that the photo caption in her edition of the report states the children are with a guard (in other words, not Dr. Botkin).



You're welcome Elisabeth - and thank you for the additional information from Elizaveta about the guard :)

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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2005, 11:28:36 AM »
p.s-i have also een one if olga chopping wood..
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This one I think.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/OlgaTobolsk.jpg

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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2005, 02:03:23 PM »
“Where there any photos of the IF taken in Ekaterinburg ?” Good question! There could even have been some taken by some members of the Family. Here are some interesting items I found in first investigator Nametkin’s “Inventory of Romanov  Possessions in Ekaterinburg” (FOTR, Appendix 2), objects which were found in late July/early August 1918 :

- in the stoves of the Popov House (across Voznesensky Lane): 3 cartridges of Kodak film…
- in the possession of former guard Letemin: along with the Tsarevich’s diary, such objects as a camera, a box with 16 glass negative plates, a box with 17 glass negative plates…

Which leaves me wondering: had the cartridges of film been burned?  if so beyond salvation? Was the camera empty? What was on the glass negative plates (maybe from the Tsarevich’s Magic Lantern, maybe not…) What happened to all the objects found by Nametkin?. Where they handed over to later investigators Sergeev and Sokolov? If so, what happened to them?
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2005, 08:42:35 PM »
Thanks Daniel! FOTR can never go wrong. Ha ha. Interesting thoughts. I'm guessing they were burned, and perhaps for specific purposes. Perhaps the family saw no point in taking photos while imprisoned. Personally, I wouldn't want to remember life at the Ipatiev House. Either that or they were not permitted to take photographs.

I guess it's left up for grabs.


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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2005, 08:53:53 PM »
I don't think they were allowed access to their cameras. I heard they asked for them on Maria's birthday, and were denied, but that could be apocryphal. Probably the destroyed negatives etc were photos taken in Tobolsk.

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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2005, 06:30:14 PM »
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Alexandrov's book is AWFUL with the photos!  They misidentify the girls, the location, etc.  ie Maria in 1918 - it's Tatiana in 1913!  It's so sad.  And the text is just as bad...


That book irritates me as well picture wise! He even labels Alexandra as Demidova...and Anastasia in 1914 as "The last picture ever taken of her".  ??? :o

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In the picture of the family on the roof at Tobolsk, you know the green house that Nicky built steps up to? People were wondering why Olga was sitting alone to the side. Maybe she didn't want to fall off? Really! That's another idea besides feeling isolated. And about OTMA being hard to identify, once you know who's who you realize quickly.
It looks like this one...and there is another in The House of Special Purpose with Olga sitting waaay off to the side.
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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2005, 02:07:36 PM »
That photo was taken when Nicholas was recovering from typhus in 1901. Not in captivity.

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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2005, 05:29:38 PM »
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That photo was taken when Nicholas was recovering from typhus in 1901. Not in captivity.


Yep. Abby is correct. Lol... ;)
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2005, 06:08:59 PM »
I have seen photo of Nicholas that was labeled as the last known photo of the Tsar... He has his army overcoat on and hands in his pockets.. In the background you can see the wooden palisade of the Ipatiev house... His beard also looks like he trimmed it... anyone ever seen this photo...? I will search for it...

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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2005, 07:03:14 PM »
Did the Tobolsk have a high wooden fence as well ?
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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2005, 08:48:12 PM »
here is the link with a bunch of different pictures, the one I was referring to says the last known photo of Tsar Nicholas... It does look like a captivity picture to me and I know that he had his overcoat which frequently would wear when they let them walk outside...
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/royal20.htm
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2005, 07:09:01 PM »
I have wondered, how could the family develop the camera's pictures in Tobolsk? We know they did because they still exist. Same thing for the photos taken during their early stay at the Ipatiev House before the cameras got taken away.

(I really don't know much about cameras anyways! It amazes me how a camera works, you know, capturing th picture etc.!)
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« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2005, 07:50:58 PM »
Hi All,

I've never seen the photo Val posted with the swingset either.  Olga is so thin--I've read that she lost a lot of weight in captivity but that photo was rather shocking!  This is a great thread.

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2005, 11:13:16 AM »
Val, I've been looking at the photo you posted and I just wondered if the chap on the right could be Dr Derevenko?

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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2005, 01:07:44 PM »
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Val, I've been looking at the photo you posted and I just wondered if the chap on the right could be Dr Derevenko?


It's Nicholas.