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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #330 on: December 28, 2009, 02:21:38 PM »
She thought that being born on christmas and that year it was on Sunday too, and it was considered
that was of good luck, so she believed that children that were born on Sunday could take bad or good luck to others,
in fact I've read that also when she was born she had a theeth, thing that she considered another signal of good luck,
she wasn't a common person...

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #331 on: December 28, 2009, 02:24:11 PM »
Sisi most certainly believe she was a special person. However I do not think she consider herself lucky.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #332 on: December 28, 2009, 02:26:59 PM »
Yes, she didn't consider herself a lucky person, in fact I think that she considered herself an
unhappy one.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #333 on: December 28, 2009, 02:31:34 PM »
Unlucky in love I guess. If only FJ was not the Emperor...as she said.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #334 on: December 28, 2009, 02:34:23 PM »
Yes, famous phrase of Sissi, but being honest i still think if Sissi would really be happy with FJ not
as an Emperor, she didn't love him at the time of their engagement and I doubt that he loved him more after
their wedding

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #335 on: December 28, 2009, 02:39:45 PM »
I think Sisi fell in love with him physically and romantically. The early years between the couple was harmonious enough, their only disagreements were based on the children & Archduchess Sofie.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #336 on: December 28, 2009, 02:49:03 PM »
And that made a great difference to them that damaged their marriage forever, I think that if the
archduchess wouldn't took any attitude or action they would have perhaps a happier and better relationship
between them

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #337 on: December 28, 2009, 02:57:31 PM »
Sofie was a dominerring mother beacuse of her nature and misguided loyalty to her family. Sisi later realised this but the damage was done.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #338 on: December 28, 2009, 02:59:52 PM »
Indeed true, she wanted more to keep the intererests of the Empire or the dinasty more than the
personal interests of her children

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #339 on: December 28, 2009, 07:40:18 PM »
Yes. There is a sad dignity to that, and later Sisi asked Archduchess Sofia for her forgiveness on her death bed realising that her dominerring ways were not due to self interest. I think they manage to reconcil before the older woman's death.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #340 on: December 28, 2009, 07:55:50 PM »
Medal about Elisabeth. You can see her lying in state, so it was given after her death.


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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #341 on: December 28, 2009, 09:54:41 PM »
idealized no doubt.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #342 on: December 28, 2009, 10:06:10 PM »
i think she was idealized in ALL her portraits after rudolph`s death.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #344 on: December 29, 2009, 10:44:17 AM »
I have never seen this meddal before, and by the way, what is written below her image?
Is a pity but I don't understand German. :-(
Thanks for post this lovely image of young Sissi, Princess susan, I only had it in black and white.