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Re: Anti-Tsar Post Card From 1905
« on: February 20, 2005, 01:47:44 PM »


The card is from Bulgaria. I cannot read the script, but the caption says something about socialism & self government ?
Obviouslty itr is depicting the Russian autocracy ship sinking...
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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2005, 12:22:43 AM »
The caption reads: Social-democracy [a political movement] and Autocracy.

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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2005, 12:32:21 AM »
The red text below the card reads:

Social democracy and (Imperial) autocracy


At least the well dressed gentlemen have not sunk, and are assured of dry land with the priest heading in the "right direction" while the peasantry are heading into "deep water" ... a journey way out their depth and into impending darkness.

Quite a clever card!

BTW the card is addressed to Nikola Pirov and was sent by K. Popov  


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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2005, 12:33:43 AM »
Sorry Mike, it seems we were both addressing the card at the same time.


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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2005, 02:54:13 AM »
"Great minds think alike"  8)

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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2005, 09:15:19 AM »
Another way to look at it- the socialists are heading for a bright future, while one of the autocracy is alreading drowned !
Can anyone read the script ?
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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2005, 10:43:16 AM »
Mr. K. Popov, resident of Ruse, Bulgaria, wishes his friend Mr. Nikola Pirov, who lives in the same city, a Happy New 1904 Year.

The card was published in Ruse, but the caption is in Russian. The monarch in the sinking boat is undoubtedly Nicholas II. All that, plus the date before the 1905 revolution, makes it a Russian social-democratic propaganda item printed abroad and intended for smuggling into Russia.

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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2005, 09:25:48 PM »
It is amusing to see that the priest is making a run to dry land while Nikolai II is still hanging in there.

Could this be a subtle political hint towards the concept of "separation of powers" here? Hmm... ;)


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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2005, 05:06:27 AM »
Revolutionary postcards were were, along with Satirical journals, one of the most important forms of anti-Tsarist propaganda.  

A quite phenomenal amount of cards were published inside Russia both legally and illegally in the 1905-c1908.                              
                                               
I have a large collection of these rev. cards (and from 1917 and Civil War period) that I have been steadily collecting over the yearrs.

Apart from a few articles puiblished in Russian and brief mentions in English texts there is very little extant info on them.

It is such a great shame that the importance of these cards  has yet to be fully appreciated both artistically and historically.  

I have writtent various articles on them, but would be extremely interested if there are any other people who might have any further information, or indeed have any of their own cards to post.


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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2005, 10:54:45 PM »
Tobik,
I would be interested in knowing how you came across the cards and how long you have been collecting them. Would you mind posting others? The one you did post is facinating. Thank you for sharing.
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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2005, 02:30:10 AM »
Lexi4,  

The one that was posted was not mine, but your enthusiasm is greatly appreciated.

I started collecting them about five years ago when I used to pick them up while trying to develop a collection of Revolutionary ephemera.  Since then I have found them in all sorts of places, but mostly in Russia and the Baltics.

The 1905 cards are becoming really quite hard to come accross now, especially the obviously illegal ones depicting the Tsar.  With regard to posting some pix, I will do my best - I have a couple with me here, but am afraid the majority of my collection is back home in England, so it may be a while before I am able to do so.

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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2005, 09:30:06 AM »
I think that a lot of the anti-tsar (or caricatour cards) of 1904-905 were printed in France.

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Re: anti-tsar card
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2005, 10:21:23 AM »
Hikaru,

the vast majority of 1905 cards were actually produced in Russia itself, though some (esp. early bolshevik ones) were produced in Geneva and Germany.  It is not beyond the realms of possibilty that some were produced in France, though I have not yet seen or read anything that would confirm this.  Wd be interested if you had any further info.


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Re: Anti-Tsar Post Card From 1905
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2018, 11:52:24 AM »
I note the last reply to this was well over ten years ago just about the length of time I have been writing my new book on Russian postcards of the 1905 Revolution! I hope that my study, the first of its kind, will provide readers with a lot more background to the postcard in this post. For more details see my latest post in the 'new books' section.
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