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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #120 on: January 12, 2011, 06:14:45 AM »
This Faberge portrait for Anastasia was new to me so I tried to make it bigger hope it is in good quality:

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« Reply #121 on: January 12, 2011, 07:21:28 AM »
Ah! Finally Anastasia by Fabergé! Beautiful find! Funny how you can see the gap between her teeth even in this :)

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« Reply #122 on: January 12, 2011, 03:29:07 PM »
Wonderful VOF! I've never seen it and I love her smile! =)
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« Reply #123 on: January 13, 2011, 05:29:30 AM »
Very beautiful. Which year was it painted? Was it a present for someone or ordered by the Imperial couple for themselves?

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« Reply #124 on: January 13, 2011, 06:49:47 AM »
You’re welcome Annie =)
And Matushka I have no idea though it seems to be based on a formal picture in 1906 because it is so similar to this:

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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #125 on: January 13, 2011, 08:24:03 PM »
VOF, it seems to me the other girls Faberge portraits are form this photo session as well...what's exciting to me is seeing  the colour of their hair and eyes...while the Faberge artist used photos, I have to believe the girl's eye and hair colour was made known to him....perhaps by direct observation or by consulting with some one who knew them....but Faberge portraits are our best record of these things ...however I believe in this case  the artist removed a  bit of AN's impishness in his portrait...in the photo, she looks more mischievous! lol!

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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #126 on: January 18, 2011, 02:20:03 PM »
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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #127 on: January 18, 2011, 02:35:12 PM »
Yes I have  seen that and the others ! It will be interesting to see how much it goes for in the last seconds.
I imagine between 300.00-400.00...sigh

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« Reply #128 on: January 18, 2011, 08:06:58 PM »
Yes I have  seen that and the others ! It will be interesting to see how much it goes for in the last seconds.
I imagine between 300.00-400.00...sigh
Good lord...it was nearly 900.00

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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #129 on: January 19, 2011, 07:57:23 PM »
Wonderful, VOF! Thanks for posting the portrait. As blessOTMA said, Faberge portraits are the best guess we have for getting an idea of their coloring.

Isn't that photograph on sale only a copy? The original is from Beinecke Yale albums..
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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #130 on: January 19, 2011, 08:11:27 PM »
Holly, I think prints  were sold back in the day...increasingly I'm seeing Anna's albums ( and every one's  )  as collections of not just photos they personally  took , but also of copy prints  from other places as well . I think one could order copies of photos from the court photographers...and this looks like what was available on eBay recently.  Anna could have taken those photos...or just as likely  bought them or had them gifted to her... It makes sense there would be  prints made available for others....and it makes sense the prints, made in those days would go for so much on eBay...they are historic items . The print that just sold could have been made the same time as Anna's photo in Yale

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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #131 on: January 19, 2011, 09:56:29 PM »
Ah, yes, that's right. I just can't see paying that much for just a copy made in the same time period. It may be old, but if I'm going to pay a fortune for it, it would have glue hand painted by Anastasia on it.
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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #132 on: January 19, 2011, 11:18:52 PM »
Lord, I agree...plus these are very small prints...well smaller than we are use to...and in fairly rough shape. I was surprised at how high it went. One never knows

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« Reply #133 on: January 19, 2011, 11:30:54 PM »
Re Reply # 143/ "blessOTMA"  Yes, "blessOtma," your comments are logical.  It is a very simple and naive "trap" into which many collectors fall.  I was once the victim of my own rush to acquire a similiar item:  four "original" photos of the Spanish King Alfonso XIII, visiting the Vatican.  While they WERE IMO (upon receipt of a winning bid) definitely authentic in subject matter, definitely of-the-period in chemical development, paper, etc., BUT.................were they "UNIQUE" as in being the ONLY ones in existence?  ABSOLUTELY NOT! They had come from a period newspaper/reporter collection, wherein a few DUPLICATES were always kept.  I later verified this with the seller, who answered honestly.  Thank God, I DID NOT pay an exceptional price, but I quickly learned the lesson of  "Need, Speed, Greed."
  Among my Russian Imperial Era collections, over the years I have looked at, studied, and purchased a number of photos.  Of these, I have perhaps a half-dozen of IMO authentic, of the period photos of the Emperor Nicholas (on community visits, etc.), members of his suite, the Heir posing candidly alone (outside and NOT during the war-years), etc., that IMPORTANTLY, I have NEVER EVER seen published.  Some have their mounted adhesive album page backings and are from Russia, for instance St. Petersburg, etc. They are the somewhat smaller-than-expected photos (not like our modern 4"x 6" glossies, or "cabinet" photos.  Do I consider them "unique," "one-of a kind," etc.?  NOT ON YOUR LIFE!  Who knows, how many thousands of duplicates remain unshown/undiscovered/ unpublished in the GARF files, personal /family files, etc. I potentially would allow (modern/marked) copies to be made for reputable reasons, research, but NOT for wide-open distribution. I sincerely doubt that even with the most pristine, chain-of-custody collections, Yale or otherwise, that you will find VERY, VERY, FEW "only-one-of-its-kind" photos.  Copies were naturally made from the original negatives for family members, allied military personnel, other royal houses, publicity, etc. Yet they were all of the same period and are authentic.  However, by definition, there can only be ONE original print, the rest are DUPLICATES.   As for my collection, eventually, it will be up to my son to decide what he would wish to do at the "appropriate" time.  He is exceptionally fluent in Russian, reasonably knowledge in my collection, etc., so it would not be a "give-away." I simply treat them as "oddities."
  Now as to value......REALLY what is ANYTHING worth?  The answer is "Just as much as another person would wish to pay."  Value is relative; what would be expensive to one person, would not be to another.  Auctions contribute to rapidly escalating prices, due to the EMOTIONAL concepts of, again, "Need, Speed, Greed."  But there is (without a "reserve price"), also a "down" side.  You can find your "treasures" going for much less that you paid  for them originally.  I have experienced this, too.  Today's economy is a large factor for the "middle-of-the -road" bidder, though for the "unique " things there will always be a market.  
  Lesson to be learned:  you can NEVER do enough research in theory for an item, but you CAN slow down and balance your desires against realities.  There are A LOT of "sharks" in the waters of collecting.   Regards,  AP.
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Re: Anastasia Pictures V
« Reply #134 on: January 23, 2011, 10:40:26 PM »
Copies were naturally made from the original negatives for family members, allied military personnel, other royal houses, publicity, etc
Exactly. It's fascinating to realize just because a photo  is in someone album...it doesn't mean they took the photo. All this time I thought Anna was an excellent photographer of  the various  palaces and landscapes ...but she most likely bought those photos from the professionals engaged by the family...and who wouldn't add to their collection by choosing among other photos of the family and events?  The photos Holly and I were discussing from a recent eBay auction appear in Anna albums at Yale and the album the family had published in 1916 to help with war funding...so indeed those would have many contemporary copies....and as you say an item is worth what someone will pay...and in the case of an auction, what two people will pay!

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