Author Topic: Princess Zenaida and Count Felix - parents of Felix-jr, their family life  (Read 51582 times)

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Offline ashanti01

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 ::) I'm going to give this a shot because perhaps there is someone who knows more about this than I.

I had once heard a rumor that Xenia's lover who she always noted as "F" in her journals was actually Felix, Princess Yussupovs husband, which would make her Zeneide, Sandro's mistress.

Far fetched I know...but it sound believable at the time.

If this is not true, did she ever at some point has a romantic realtionship with someone besides her husband?

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I thought that too but someone told me F was an Englishman. I would like to think it was Sandro. She was his first crush when he was a young boy. She was 5 years older than him and she was married before he ever had a chance to court her. It would be interesting, though scandalous, to image them as lovers, but what a thought!

Another thing about her love life is, as people say with Alix, why didn't she have more children? When I read in Lost Splendor that she was disappointed  at Felix being a boy because she'd had 3 boys (2 died as babies :'( ) and wanted a girl badly, and when he was a boy she dressed him as a girl, I had assumed she was older and couldn't have more kids. When I found out she was only 25 when Felix was born, I wondered why she didn't try again, or is that when she and her husband started, um, having seperate quarters, oh never mind, I feel like such a nosey gossip.

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Annie---very good observation

She was young when Felix was born, but I have never heard why she never had any more children or if she and her husband had seperate bedrooms but I think it was a lot more often for couples to have seprate rooms back them.

The idea of her and Sandro doesn't seem too far out. I mean Z.Y was very beautiful into her 50's and F's description from Xenia's papers, does seem to match what is known of Felix...but like you said how scandelous it would have been

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I suspected they had seperate rooms but it was confirmed looking at the pics posted here, there are seperate pics for her rooms and his. Some were joined by a staircase, and it does not mean they stopped having you know what, I guess it's really none of my beeswax! :-[  I also think because she was slender and an avid dancer perhaps she was afraid of ending up heavy and matronly before her time, again, just guessing. One more guess, she did have trouble having one of the babies who died and was near death when she was miraculously saved by Father John Kronstadt.

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As an adjunct to all of this: I have read (I have the information somewhere here in my notes, and can post the details if anyone is interested) that Zenaide's huband Felix actually had a male lover in Moscow named Paul something.  When I read that I admit I was pretty shocked and surprised, and not terribly convinced, but apparently this guy's memoirs (Paul) have been published in Russia now and give details.

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Talk about set the cat amongst the pigeons!  I don't think that I have ever heard that one before.  Greg can you please give us a little more info about this please?
Just imagine, the talk has always been about Felix (jnr)'s sexual proclivities - how ironic!
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Holy  :o  :o  :o
Her husband had a male lover????What the...PLEASE post more information on this and what was her reaction to this?

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This from the man who told his son he 'wasn't fit to breathe the same air as decent folk' for wearing girls' clothes? Gasp. Is there any more on this?

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If he was carrying on with a man, why was he throwing sucha fit with Felix?

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If true, this would be yet another case of "Do as I say, not as I do"!

Also--and again, if this is true--he may have been chiding Felix for not being more circumspect, as well as not marrying and begeting an heir.

Once these duties were accomplished, many husbands felt free to do whatever they wanted, with whomever!
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But he was only 12 when that incident happened.

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Aha!  :P  Well, then I'll retract what I said about marriage and begetting a child, but perhaps the senior Felix saw qualities in Felix junior which he recognized in his own personality, and which he therefore wanted to modify in his son. Parents are like that, as we know from other examples of European royalty (i.e., Queen Victoria's dismay with her eldest son, Princess Grace's dismay with her daughters, etc.) . . . and probably from our own experiences as well!  ;)

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Oh my, Oh my (etc,etc,etc)

Really, i have just read this and simply cannot give credit to my eyes: Felix having a homosexual affair??? I would have never imagined anything like that. He looked so male(in spanish i would use the word "macho")...but well, this can be too often a simple mask.

I cannot help but finding it so funny, all the most(as Janet remarked) because of his attitude towards his sonīs lifestyle. In his defence i must say that his young son deserved a good talk about his wild night adventure wearing his motherīs clothes and jewells. Youīll agree thatīs too much for a father to endure :)


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I feel so bad for Princess Zinaida Yussupova. I wonder how she must have felt. Did she turn a blind eye??? All of the men who were after her and she ends up with man who appearntly was more attracted by men than her lovely face.

This is my shock of the day

Offline Robert_Hall

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It would seem obvious that both men had different ways of expressing themselves-sexually.  Sr. must have preferred the quiet, private behind doors passion, while Jr. well, like it a bit more flamboyant ?
This is no different that any of us today, is it?
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