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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #75 on: February 26, 2009, 08:59:16 PM »
Are there any accounts saying how Dmitri got Tatiana's death news? Just wanna know how he reacted. I hope he cried fervently.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2009, 06:07:47 PM »
Would somebody know his birth date? There's no information about it.
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #77 on: May 29, 2009, 04:55:45 AM »
Are there any accounts saying how Dmitri got Tatiana's death news? Just wanna know how he reacted. I hope he cried fervently.

Malama died while commanding a unit of white Russians:( I believe that was only a year after the Romanov's murder so it wasn't clear at that point what had happened to the Romanovs.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2009, 05:00:48 AM »
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At livadia.org you can find three photographs featuring a "Mitya".


http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/bigpairmityaparents.jpg

http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/nickytatmitya.jpg

http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/mashkamityaana.jpg


In my opinion he does not look like the person in the previously posted pictures, but it might just be the light and angle.

Well done. Absolutely not the same person by any means.


Oooh... Wasn't Pavlovich engaged to Olga? And it was broken off because of his association with Felix Yusupov?

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #79 on: May 29, 2009, 06:50:54 AM »

Oooh... Wasn't Pavlovich engaged to Olga? And it was broken off because of his association with Felix Yusupov?

I think you'll find that information in this thread: Olga's official suitors, marriage prospects, and proposals.
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #81 on: September 08, 2009, 05:06:40 PM »
I don't know too much about him, but did they have an official relationship?

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2009, 05:11:15 PM »
I don't know too much about him, but did they have an official relationship?

There were view "official relationships" Grand Duchess Tatiana could have had. The only one that comes to my mind is an engagement, and no, they were not engaged.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #83 on: September 08, 2009, 05:18:58 PM »
What fast answer!! Thank you! But I was refferring if they were officially considered
girlfriend and boyfriend, not neccesary to get married or engagement

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #84 on: September 08, 2009, 05:26:24 PM »
What fast answer!! Thank you! But I was refferring if they were officially considered
girlfriend and boyfriend, not neccesary to get married or engagement

No, they weren't. Malama was certainly one of Tatiana's favorite soldiers in the lazaret and she may even have had a crush on him, but they would not have been considered girlfriend/boyfriend.
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #85 on: September 08, 2009, 06:28:46 PM »
What fast answer!! Thank you! But I was refferring if they were officially considered
girlfriend and boyfriend, not neccesary to get married or engagement

No, they weren't. Malama was certainly one of Tatiana's favorite soldiers in the lazaret and she may even have had a crush on him, but they would not have been considered girlfriend/boyfriend.

And nothing like that type of "official status" existed at that time in the Russian Empire.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2009, 07:20:08 PM »
Thank you!!
What fast answer!! Thank you! But I was refferring if they were officially considered
girlfriend and boyfriend, not neccesary to get married or engagement

No, they weren't. Malama was certainly one of Tatiana's favorite soldiers in the lazaret and she may even have had a crush on him, but they would not have been considered girlfriend/boyfriend.

And nothing like that type of "official status" existed at that time in the Russian Empire.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2009, 01:43:00 PM »
Are there any accounts saying how Dmitri got Tatiana's death news? Just wanna know how he reacted. I hope he cried fervently.

My grand father who was Dmitrij's younger cousine, recalled that after he knew about the murder, he began intentionally to look for death in action. After some heroic deeds he finally fell in the battle in the Sallski steppes.  It would be great to know though references to statements that he was killed near Tsaritsyn (how symbolic for him!) and where exactly is his grave. I saw somewhere an account that it is in Ekaterinodar.
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2009, 01:48:39 PM »
Itīs so sad... and romantic...

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2009, 01:55:12 PM »
Thanks to all for your postings!


Another idea: There are hardly any references to the Malama family. For instance, if you do a Google search you will only find a page mentioning Yakov Dimitrievich Malama, a Vice King of Georgia (1904-1905)

So I would like to repeat my initial question: Was Dmitri Malama in any way related to Dr. B. Z. Malama, honorary physician to the Tsar? Actually that would fit in perfectly:

1) According to Ian Vorres, Dr. Malama was in contact with Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna and Colonel Koulikovsky.

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Check p. 114 of The Fall of the Romanovs.  On June 21, 1917, Olga Nicholievna writes to her Aunt Olga and speaks of wanting to have had a "heart-to-heart" when they last saw each other.  She also passes on a kiss to her and to Mitia.
 
How these small pieces of information fit in, don't they?
Is it really that easy or am I just overwhelmed by the idea that all the time I have had the answer just before my eyes and did not realize?


Yes, indeed they were relatives. In fact, virtually any person in Russia with Malama surname before 1917 would belong to the same large family. Dmitirij was also called by Tsarina "little" probably because there were two more (older) Malamas at the Court: Dr. Boris Zakharovich and Egermeister (Tzar's friend) Alexander Valerianovich.
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