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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2009, 04:32:57 PM »
What sad history!!!! :'-(

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« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2009, 04:40:10 PM »
Are there any accounts saying how Dmitri got Tatiana's death news? Just wanna know how he reacted. I hope he cried fervently.

My grand father who was Dmitrij's younger cousine, recalled that after he knew about the murder, he began intentionally to look for death in action. After some heroic deeds he finally fell in the battle in the Sallski steppes.  It would be great to know though references to statements that he was killed near Tsaritsyn (how symbolic for him!) and where exactly is his grave. I saw somewhere an account that it is in Ekaterinodar.

Aww how sweet (so to speak)... he really fell for Tatiana (love wise) didn't he? if only they had survived since Tatiana wasn't a grand duchess anymore they could have possibly been "together" couldn't they?
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #92 on: December 13, 2009, 10:00:13 AM »
It is possible that had they lived, they might nave been permitted to marry - the only way the could be together in the sense you mean it.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #93 on: December 13, 2009, 11:33:47 AM »
Would somebody know his birth date? There's no information about it.

Dmitrij Yakovlevich was born on Jul. 19, 1891 in the village of Lozovatka, Verkhnedneprovskij ouezd. He graduated from Pajeskij Corpous in 1912 and on Aug. 6, 1912 he was made cornet. He had two older sisters: Vera and Ekaterina.

I'll try to post a new photo of Dmitrij around the time of his graduation.

I suspect that he was not killed in Ukraine, as my uncle Peter wrote, because it would be next to unreal to bring his body from there to Ekaterinodar. This city is much closer to both Tsaritsyn and Salskij steppes.

P.S. All dates are in Julian calendar.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 11:50:20 AM by Rdr. Michael Malama »
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #94 on: December 13, 2009, 12:55:47 PM »
The family's deaths and its manner are difficult for us today and certainly one didn't have
to know them personally as well as he did to agonize over it . But when Dmitri Malama learned
of Tatiana's  and the family's fate, I cannot imagine the emotional pain
and torment  this young man experienced.

How often we say, so if only we were there! Yes, but there would be a price for that...besides
the pain of thier loss, he must of felt he should have somehow saved them , impossible though that
might have been. Only moments of extreme personal danger would offer a respite.
...at least that is what Dmitri Malama seems to have discovered.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2009, 08:24:26 PM »
Would somebody know his birth date? There's no information about it.

Dmitrij Yakovlevich was born on Jul. 19, 1891 in the village of Lozovatka, Verkhnedneprovskij ouezd. He graduated from Pajeskij Corpous in 1912 and on Aug. 6, 1912 he was made cornet. He had two older sisters: Vera and Ekaterina.

I'll try to post a new photo of Dmitrij around the time of his graduation.

I suspect that he was not killed in Ukraine, as my uncle Peter wrote, because it would be next to unreal to bring his body from there to Ekaterinodar. This city is much closer to both Tsaritsyn and Salskij steppes.

P.S. All dates are in Julian calendar.

Wow, you're one of Dmitri Malama's nephews!
I thank you for the information about him. I didn't expect someone related to him would join this forum. I thank you in advance for the photo.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #96 on: December 14, 2009, 09:16:03 AM »
Hmm, for some reason I don't see 'attach' image option under my Additional options in this reply, so I can't post an image. Forgive my ignorance, but may be someone will enlighten me on this?
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #97 on: December 14, 2009, 10:04:35 AM »
Hmm, for some reason I don't see 'attach' image option under my Additional options in this reply, so I can't post an image. Forgive my ignorance, but may be someone will enlighten me on this?

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2009, 03:50:31 AM »

Here's photo of Dmitrij Yakovlevich probably around spring of 1912. Honestly speaking, I believe him to be among the Synaxis of the Holy New Martyrs of Russia. As St. Righteous John of Kronstadt asserted, all soldiers who fall in the battle honestly carrying out their duty and oath to the Tzar, are taken to the Heavenly hosts by the King of kings.

Also, may it will be of some interest: Dmitrij's heroism showed him as a fruitful offshoot of his heroic father. I post here a picture of this great general widely adored by people during his rule in the Caucasus.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2009, 04:08:48 AM »
Wow, thank you for that photo, Michael! He is obviously very tall...I'm feeling so sad why his and Tatiana's love story would end up tragically.
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #100 on: December 16, 2009, 04:17:06 AM »
I actually received yesterday a confirmation from a famous Russian White Army historisian S. Volkov that Dimitrij was killed near Tsarytsyn and not in Ukraine.
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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #101 on: December 16, 2009, 10:20:32 AM »
I actually received yesterday a confirmation from a famous Russian White Army historisian S. Volkov that Dimitrij was killed near Tsarytsyn and not in Ukraine.

I red Malama was fought near Volgograd (Tsarytsyn/Stalingrad). But other informations claim that Ukraine.

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #102 on: December 16, 2009, 10:38:46 AM »
Honestly speaking, I believe him to be among the Synaxis of the Holy New Martyrs of Russia. As St. Righteous John of Kronstadt asserted, all soldiers who fall in the battle honestly carrying out their duty and oath to the Tzar, are taken to the Heavenly hosts by the King of kings.....Also, may it will be of some interest: Dmitrij's heroism showed him as a fruitful offshoot of his heroic father. I post here a picture of this great general widely adored by people during his rule in the Caucasus.
Thank you so very much Rdr. Malama for the photos and the information. They are not forgotten

"Give my love to all who remember me."

  Olga Nikolaevna

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2009, 05:29:32 PM »
Thank you soo much for the photos ;-) the information is totally new for me too ;-)

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Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama
« Reply #104 on: January 05, 2010, 11:59:28 AM »
So sorry to ask, but as a French man, I am afraid I do not know what RDR  ( in front of a first name ) means ?
I am at the moment finishing the writing of a chapter named " The Royal Breed " for the book of Nick Waters " Art and Heritage of the French Bulldog " which shall be published in the Netherlands but in English language this year. The last part of my chapter ends with the most famous imperial Frenchie of course ORTIPO. In her book about Alexis ( Le dernier Tsarevitch enfant martyr ) Princess Eugenie de Grece states that Dimitri Malama who gave the brindle " girl " Ortipo to GD Tatiana had himself a French Bulldog named Rojah ? Would anyone know whether Rojah or Roja was a boy or a girl Frenchie ? ( I mean male or female of course but prefer using boy or girl even for dogs ) ! Thanks if anyone can help !