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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #180 on: February 08, 2005, 09:43:17 AM »
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Close to the top of this page [17] is my post #401 about the name not being Polish but Russian.


Yes, the name is Russian, but didn't AA claim that her Tchaikovskys were Polish? Anyway, it doesn't really matter because chances are these people did not exist.

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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #181 on: February 08, 2005, 09:47:44 AM »
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Yes, the name is Russian, but didn't AA claim that her Tchaikovskys were Polish? Anyway, it doesn't really matter because chances are these people did not exist.


Thank you Helen--that has been my point on this name quest all along...
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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #182 on: February 08, 2005, 10:09:00 AM »
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Thank you Helen--that has been my point on this name quest all along...


Yeah, this name thing seems to have gotten out of hand, now I am sorry I asked. All I wanted to know was if "Tchaikovski" and "Schankowski" had the same root because they sound alike, and if AA may possibly have used it because of that, but somehow it exploded into a dissertation on Russian names!  As I said before, it really doesn't matter where the name "Tchaikovksy"came from...  ::)
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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #183 on: February 08, 2005, 10:38:33 AM »
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  As I said before, it really doesn't matter where the name "Tchaikovksy"came from...  ::)


Well I know where AA's "Tchiakovskys" came from, her own mind  :P There is no evidence they ever existed in Russia or Romania, and this is a BIG hole in her story.

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« Reply #184 on: February 08, 2005, 10:48:14 AM »
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... and this is a BIG hole in her story.



One of many!!

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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #185 on: February 08, 2005, 10:57:07 AM »
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Well I know where AA's "Tchiakovskys" came from, her own mind  :P There is no evidence they ever existed in Russia or Romania, and this is a BIG hole in her story.


What do you mean there were no "Tchiakovskys" in Russia or Romania?  Of course there were.  Didn't any of you notice what I wrote about them being from Russia and that there were many families.... It may be that researchers just haven't discovered the right family.   Let me go get a photo from another thread which shows you the huge migr. that was occuring at the time.   There were many "unknowns" traveling with the masses.



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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #186 on: February 08, 2005, 11:08:07 AM »
Bear, may I point out yet again, that even if there were slews of Tchaikovskys in Russia and elsewhere, it really doesn't matter, because we already know that AA's story about those particular Tchaikovkys was not based in reality. So we really don't need to discuss anymore about these Tchaikovskys, unless you have some particular new theory about their involvement (which you probably do  ;)  ::))...

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« Reply #187 on: February 08, 2005, 11:08:15 AM »
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What do you mean there were no "Tchiakovskys" in Russia or Romania?  Of course there were.  Didn't any of you notice what I wrote about them being from Russia and that there were many families.... It may be that researchers just haven't discovered the right family.   Let me go get a photo from another thread which shows you the huge migr. that was occuring at the time.   There were many "unknowns" traveling with the masses.



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I believe what Annie was referring to was that this particular family of Tchaikovskys was never located.  Despite AA giving us this story of 2 guards named Tchaikovsky from Ipatiev house, no one has been located to match her description.  But why should there be?  She wasn't AN and was never at Ipatiev house to be rescued...
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« Reply #188 on: February 08, 2005, 11:13:28 AM »
Helen, it looks like we did it again!  ;)

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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #189 on: February 08, 2005, 11:15:02 AM »
Yep, great minds at work  ;)

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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #190 on: February 08, 2005, 11:26:17 AM »
So,  let's get back to the Schanskowska family.

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« Reply #191 on: February 08, 2005, 11:30:18 AM »
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So,  let's get back to the Schanskowska family.

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Now THAT'S a plan, Bear.   :D

Does anyone remember if their is a source that talks about the birth order of the children?   I know somewhere I read that the only child with no definitive birth recorded was Gertrude.  

Lord help me, but I don't remember where.  :(

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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #192 on: February 08, 2005, 11:31:12 AM »
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Bear, may I point out yet again, that even if there were slews of Tchaikovskys in Russia and elsewhere, it really doesn't matter, because we already know that AA's story about those particular Tchaikovkys was not based in reality. So we really don't need to discuss anymore about these Tchaikovskys, unless you have some particular new theory about their involvement (which you probably do  ;)  ::))...


That is EXACTLY what I meant!

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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #193 on: February 08, 2005, 11:34:37 AM »
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I believe what Annie was referring to was that this particular family of Tchaikovskys was never located.  Despite AA giving us this story of 2 guards named Tchaikovsky from Ipatiev house, no one has been located to match her description.  But why should there be?  She wasn't AN and was never at Ipatiev house to be rescued...


Hey I just saw this, LOL you do both think alike (and a little like me too I guess!)

Okay now back to FS's family!

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Re: Franziska -An Interesting Story on Her own - A Timeline of Her Life
« Reply #194 on: February 08, 2005, 11:37:15 AM »
I am not sure if the birth order of the Schankowski children matters as much as establishing their maternal relationship. Did Gertrude and FS have the same mother or not, and if not, what is the evidence of that? And I mean some sort of official evidence, not "the nephew of the grandmother said this to someone" -  otherwise it becomes a "broken telephone" type of information...