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Re: Rasputinīs prophecies.
« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2005, 06:22:52 AM »
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Rasputin was virtually illiterate.  He could barely scrawl his name. His secretary was Aron Simanovitch, and he was not shot by the Bolsheviks, he escaped to Paris.  Simanovitch did make up some of the false prophesies.  I direct you to the first and most complete first hand biography of Rasputin, by Spiridovitch who was the head of secret personal security to Nicholas II, and who read first hand all of the Okhrana reports and other source material.  Rasputin simply did NOT write one word of the above "prophecies" ever.  Nor did he ever publish that supposed "book" in 1912. They are made up by others.

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Re: Rasputinīs prophecies.
« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2005, 08:57:05 AM »
My thoughts and my reflections. A Brief description of my voyage to holy places and the reflections which it suggested to my on diverse religious subjects, Grigori Rasputin, Petrograd 1915.

Thats it. Just one book, covering both the trip and his "thoughts"

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Re: Rasputin's prediction
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2005, 02:08:07 PM »
By talking with the Head of security Division Rasputin said in 1915 : "You must feed the people, then they will become calm"
Some simple , wise words - which after some time, could be regarded as prediction.
Maybe it was regarded after the revolution as prediction.

He said that when he will die, Russia will die too.
But , according to the officers of Security Division , he was just marionnaites in the hands of dirty intrigantes.

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Re: Rasputin's prediction
« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2005, 08:49:46 AM »
Strange letter indeed...scary  :o
but I'm just wondering...if Rasputin had the power to foresee the end of the Romanovs, why did he accept to follow felix Yussupov so why didn't he see his own death  ???


Very good question. Alixz
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Re: Rasputin's prediction
« Reply #64 on: July 09, 2005, 09:06:36 AM »
I could have sworn that Alexandra referred to this prophecy immediately after R's death in letters to N and others.  Am I wrong?  

As for what Rasputin did for the Jews, let's not bank on it.  

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Re: Rasputin's prediction
« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2005, 09:10:32 AM »
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I could have sworn that Alexandra referred to this prophecy immediately after R's death in letters to N and others.  Am I wrong?  

As for what Rasputin did for the Jews, let's not bank on it.  


The letter wasn't directly sent to Nikolai?  ???

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Re: Rasputin's prediction
« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2005, 09:37:08 AM »
The "rumors" concerning the prediction do claim that the letter was sent directly to N.

But I guess what I was trying to say was that there may be independent corroboration of the letter if A referred to it in correspondence...

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Re: Rasputin's prediction
« Reply #67 on: July 09, 2005, 09:40:23 AM »
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He said that when he will die, Russia will die too.
But , according to the officers of Security Division , he was just marionnaites in the hands of dirty intrigantes.

Hikaru
Please quote your source for this statement.

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Re: Rasputin's prediction
« Reply #68 on: July 09, 2005, 09:50:05 AM »
Many who were against N and A because of Rasputin claimed that Rasputin was in league with "the Jews and the Masons".....a marionette held by their strings, so to speak.

You can still find people today who believe this.  And they are generally the ones who say that Rasputin helped the Jews......which is a laugh and a half, in my opinion.

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Re: Rasputinīs prophecies.
« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2005, 04:51:44 PM »
If all the "predictions" are fake then why do so many people believe them? The book?

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Rasputin's Last Letter to Aleksandra
« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2005, 05:32:00 PM »
I'm sorry if this has been discussed, it probably has, but I don't know of any threads about it. I've heard it was a forgery. What language was it written in? And if Rasputin didn't write it, who did?

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Re: Rasputin's Last Letter to Aleksandra
« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »
A lot of people attribute it to his 'supporters', but think about who his 'supporters' were: his 'Manson family' bunch of women, Anna V., Lili Dehn, Munya Golovina, etc. I don't think they'd even think to do such a thing, and if they did wouldn't Alexandra have known?

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Re: Rasputin's Last Letter to Aleksandra
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2005, 02:11:54 AM »
Rasputin barely knew how to write.

He was considered to be illiterate.


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Re: Rasputin's Last Letter to Aleksandra
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2005, 02:06:09 AM »
I assume the one that he is supposed to have said that the Romanovs will perish if he is murdered by their own.
Well, forgery or not. I think I remember it right - that piece of paper is now shown at the Yussopov-palace in Piter. It is written in Russian.

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Re: Rasputin's Last Letter to Aleksandra
« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2005, 06:52:33 AM »
If it still exists and we can see it, maybe we can trace the handwriting. I thought he did teach himself to write as an adult?